XPost: alt.culture.ny-upstate, ny.politics, nyc.politics 
 XPost: nyc.general 
 From: gamma@nyc.rr.com 
  
 nobody wrote: 
 > 
 > In article <3F57EA7C.42924901@nyc.rr.com>, MiKe  
 > wrote: 
 > 
 > > Bill wrote: 
 > > > 
 > > > nobody  wrote in message 
 > > > news:... 
 > > > > In article 
 > > > > , 
 > > > >  "rms1"  wrote: 
 > > > > 
 > > > > > nobody  wrote in message 
 > > > > > news:nobody-965659.08275904092003@netnews.attbi.com... 
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > > If you consider the collapse of the Soviet Union a "waste". 
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > That collapse was inevitable. 
 > > > > 
 > > > > But the timing wasn't 
 > > > > 
 > > > > 
 > > > > >  To claim credit is like the rooster claiming credit for the dawn. 
 > > > > 
 > > > > 
 > > > > Ronny succeeded where many DemocRATs failed.  I know that eats at 
 you. 
 > > > > Tough luck. 
 > > > 
 > > > Back in the 70's, there was a thin but influential book written by a 
 > > > Russian ex-patriot entitled, I believe, "The Last Days of the USSR". 
 > > > I may still have the book someplace.  I'll have to look.  I haven't 
 > > > read it since the 70's.  This is a 25 year memory at work here. 
 > > > 
 > > > In it, the author argued that the Soviet Empire was too top heavy with 
 > > > a bloated military, graft, and had little modern economy to survive 
 > > > more than a couple of more decades.  He also argued that the military 
 > > > did not have the might that everyone thought it did.  In short, he 
 > > > said that the entire regime was a house of cards waiting to fall. 
 > > 
 > > Sounds like BU$H's AmeriKKKa. 
 > 
 > Maybe, but the Soviet Union is history and we're still here. 
  
 Russia is still there. 
  
 And thanks to the "fall", we now have WOMD unaccounted for in the world. 
  
 >That plus 
 > the fact that we ran rough shod over Afghanistan in only a month or two, 
 > something the Soviet Union couldn't do over quite a few years. 
  
 Afganistan is still a "wild west show". 
  
 FIRST....we funded those multilators of women and children, THE TALIBAN. 
 Dubya sent $35 million bucks in MAY 2001 to those BUTCHERS because they 
 wave the "anti-communist" flag and doddering old RepubLICKan Congressmen 
 send them money, no matter how murderous, and criminal thier actions are. 
  
 THEN....we boot out the Taliban and let the country fall to pieces. 
  
 >Should tell you something if you weren't so set in your anti US of A 
 mindset. 
  
 IT TELLS ME that BU$H&Co are totally CLUELESS as to making good foreign 
 policy. 
  
 But then, POPPYBU$H was clueless as well. 
  
 -- 
  
  
 "We should not march into Baghdad. To occupy Iraq would 
 instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab 
 world against us and make a broken tyrant into a latter- 
 day Arab hero. Assigning young soldiers to a fruitless 
 hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning 
 them to fight in what would be an unwinable urban guerilla 
 war, it could only plunge that part of the world into ever 
 greater instability." 
 -George H. W. Bush in his 1998 book  "A World Transformed", 
  
  
 http://minime.de/bush/ 
 http://www.911pi.com/ 
 http://www.warprofiteers.com/ 
 http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/ 
 http://www.mindprod.com/bush911.html 
 http://www.rise4news.net/Saddam-CIA.html 
 http://www.hermes-press.com/brainwash1.htm 
  
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