From: jeff@litech.org 
  
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 Patrick Ashley Meuser\\"-Bianca\\"  wrote: 
 > 
 >My question is, why is it that every time I try to post messages for 
 >assistance at *.comp .* groups, they bounce the message.  What kind of 
 >decisive action must be taken to arrange for the group's charter to be 
 >communicated by which  I've seen numerous messages like the one that I'm 
 >trying to send, and they refuse to let my posts go through. 
  
 I don't know what groups you've tried, or what you mean by 
 "bounce", but I wonder if there might be some technical problem 
 here that we could resolve with a little cooperative debugging. 
 Can you provide more details? 
  
  
 >Second question, about a humanities.cybernetics and soc.cybernetics, where 
 >do I go, and what do I do?  I've made a RFD for both, but I've heard 
 >nothing.  They said that they were changing thier process.  What steps are 
 >required? 
  
 The group creation process is more stable now, and you can find 
 information in various parts of 
  
     http://www.big-8.org/ 
  
  
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 Jeffrey M. Vinocur 
 jeff@litech.org 
  
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