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  Msg # 3833 of 4021 on ZZNE4432, Saturday 5-12-23, 11:54  
  From: DOUG MCLAREN  
  To: PATRICK ASHLEY MEUSER"-BI  
  Subj: Re: Why was I Censoured and How Can I St  
 From: dougmc+usenet-20070122@frenzied.us 
  
 In article , 
 Patrick Ashley Meuser\\"-Bianca\\"  wrote: 
  
 | I've sent numerous messages to the all comp.ai.* groups, including one 
 today 
 | with questions about the invisible thief problem.  None of them got 
 through. 
 | When I mean by "bounce" is deny legitimate messages that I send while they 
 | let things like "Sex Vidz" get through--which obviously does not relate to 
 | the group any more than the message that I'm trying to communicate. 
  
 Which group exactly are you trying to post to? 
  
 If it's a moderated group (I'm guessing it is) then the moderators 
 aren't likely to be approving "Sex Vidz" posts -- what's more likely 
 is that the spammers are deliberately bypassing the moderators.  This 
 is *abuse*, but since spam is already abuse, what's a little more 
 abuse to a spammer? 
  
 It does not mean there's a double standard being enforced by the 
 moderator -- it just means that the spammer isn't following the rules. 
 Unfortunately, there's little the moderator can do to stop it. 
  
 As for why your posts aren't being approved by the moderator, that 
 would depend on the post and the group in question.  Doesn't the 
 bounced message (if there is one -- it's not really clear) give you a 
 reason of some sort why your post wasn't accepted.  It should, 
 assuming you're using a valid address that can accept that email (your 
 address looks valid enough, though I can't be sure unless I email 
 you.)  Most moderators will at least tell you why your post was 
 rejected if it was in fact explicitly rejected, though they'll 
 probably skip this step if the message is *obvious* spam.  (But I'm 
 guessing that's not the case.) 
  
 If you feel that the moderators are treating you unfairly, you'd 
 probably gain more traction if you included the text of your post and 
 of the bounce message received.  (Of course, it's also possible that 
 people will agree with the moderator that your post shouldn't be 
 approved.  We won't know until we see it.) 
  
 If you're not getting any `your post was rejected' message at all, 
 perhaps something is wrong with your news server regarding posting to 
 moderated groups?  If you want, try to post a test message to 
 austin.announce (which I moderate.)  I should receive it (and won't 
 approve it, being a test message) and we can see if things work that 
 way.  (We'd work that out via email -- no need to post it here.) 
  
 -- 
 Doug McLaren, dougmc@frenzied.us 
           "Only drug dealers and software companies 
             call their customers 'users.'" - anon. 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) 

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