From: dhunt@celticommnospam.com 
  
 "Jeffrey M. Vinocur"  wrote in message 
 news:ehn1uj$f2d$1@puck.litech.org... 
 > In article , 
 > Patrick Ashley Meuser\\"-Bianca\\"  wrote: 
 >> 
 >>My question is, why is it that every time I try to post messages for 
 >>assistance at *.comp .* groups, they bounce the message.  What kind of 
 >>decisive action must be taken to arrange for the group's charter to be 
 >>communicated by which  I've seen numerous messages like the one that I'm 
 >>trying to send, and they refuse to let my posts go through. 
 > 
 > I don't know what groups you've tried, or what you mean by 
 > "bounce", but I wonder if there might be some technical problem 
 > here that we could resolve with a little cooperative debugging. 
 > Can you provide more details? 
 > 
 > 
 >>Second question, about a humanities.cybernetics and soc.cybernetics, where 
 >>do I go, and what do I do?  I've made a RFD for both, but I've heard 
 >>nothing.  They said that they were changing thier process.  What steps are 
 >>required? 
 > 
 > The group creation process is more stable now, and you can find 
 > information in various parts of 
 > 
 >    http://www.big-8.org/ 
  
 More stable, IE. it's much easier to do if there was a civil war in 
 progress. 
  
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