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  Msg # 3728 of 4021 on ZZNE4432, Saturday 5-12-23, 11:53  
  From: DON AITKEN  
  To: VANGUARD.NEWS@YAHOONIX.CO  
  Subj: Re: How does moderation work?  
 From: don-aitken@freeuk.com 
  
 On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:35:20 -0600, "Vanguard" 
  wrote: 
  
 >"Don Aitken"  wrote in message 
 >news:jn8i2256nr89ujn9ejka2avfip7c0jplav@4ax.com... 
  
 >> Actually, there is nothing to prevent anybody adding the Approved: 
 >> header to their own posts, except that the commoner newsreaders don't 
 >> to custom headers. However, forged approvals are regarded as a serious 
 >> matter, and will lose you your account with any decent NSP. 
 > 
 >Holy cow!  I would've thought that the Approved header would only be 
 >usable through the moderator's account at the NNTP server.  That way, 
 >their e-mail address in the Approved header would have to match the one 
 >recorded for their NNTP account (or maybe the Approved header got added 
 >but the moderator had to go through their own account which had the 
 >admin privilege to post messages without approval). 
 > 
 I'm not sure that's even possible. News is a distributed system, and 
 posts can be injected anywhere. A news account is a news account - 
 there are no specially privileged ones. And most moderation is done by 
 teams rather than single individuals; they are unlikely to be all 
 using the same server. Remember that virtually all existing news 
 server software dates from a time when nobody but proper geeks had 
 access to this stuff. It isn't designed for security, which is why it 
 is so vulnerable to trolls and wreckers. 
  
 >Does the alt.* anarchy have any moderated groups?  The list of moderated 
 >groups that I remember scanning through were for the Big-8 groups. 
 > 
 I believe there are some moderated groups in alt.*, but not many, and 
 people wanting to start new ones are strongly advised against it. 
 Because there is no "official" source of control messages for alt.*, 
 you would have to convince all the newsadmins that *your* moderated 
 version was the one to go with. 
  
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 Don Aitken 
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