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 From: lovefaith@shaw.ca 
  
 "Mike"  wrote in message 
 news:t8e090l05q48l5pl033th192afku4it7h8@4ax.com... 
  
 > On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:32:50 -0700, Deborah  
 > wrote: 
 > 
 > >On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 00:02:26 GMT, "Nancy"  
 wrote: 
 > > 
 > >>"Deborah"  wrote in message 
 > >>news:fo4g801s8kl49frivd3ght3uokejdcb7jh@4ax.com... 
 > >> 
 > >>> Our newsgroup is carried by talk, and we are having problems 
 with 
 > >>> trolls from another group who have more or less hijacked the 
 group 
 > >>so 
 > >>> that it no longer serves the purpose set out in the charter. 
 This 
 > >>has 
 > >>> been going on for a long time and the best efforts of those who 
 are 
 > >>in 
 > >>> the group for legitimate purposes to keep the group on track 
 have 
 > >>> failed. 
 > >>> 
 > >>> Is there a procedure for closing a newsgroup? 
 > >>> 
 > >>> Deborah 
 > >> 
 > >>The situation on the newsgroup is NOT as represented by Deborah. 
 The 
 > >>newsgroup has not been hijacked. Is there a way to STOP someone 
 who is 
 > >>attempting to close down a newsgroup out of personal pique? 
 > >> 
 > >>Nancy 
 > > 
 > >Nancy, if you enjoy the people from eots, why don't you JOIN eots 
 and 
 > >talk to them over there?   Just don't try to discuss the course 
 over 
 > >there, because it's not the topic. 
  
 I would, but to join eots I'd have to agree with the teachings of eots 
 and I don't. I've been a course student for significantly more than a 
 quarter of a century because I believe what's in the course. 
 Literally. 
  
 The truth is, for the most part, most of the people who are here from 
 eots are fairly long-time course students who were here before they 
 joined the eots mailing list, and they're here to see old friends and 
 to discuss the course. I don't see anything wrong with that. 
  
 The course tells me these people are my brothers. I believe that. 
  
 It tells me that attack has no foundation. I believe that. 
  
 It tells me that if I change any aspect of a problem, I will remove 
 myself from the solution. I believe that. 
  
 It tells me that forgiveness will bring the miracle of healing. I 
 believe that. 
  
 As a matter of fact, as long as I have been around the course on the 
 Net and as long as I have known some of you, I have to admit to being 
 somewhat surprised and maybe a little sad that, of all the long-time 
 course students on here, the only ones that seem even remotely 
 interested in TRYING course principles out on this dilemma are Carrie 
 and the people you've identified (rightly or wrongly) as "eots." 
  
 I have to ask... why in the heck are you wasting your time on 
 something called "A Course in Miracles" when you don't even have the 
 faith that the principles outlined in the course just maybe have a 
 chance of being true -- just maybe have a chance of actually working? 
 Why not take up chess or multi-level marketing or form a cadre in 
 support of St. Jude (who, by the way, should never be under-rated)? 
  
 Deborah, I'm not disappointed in you personally, please don't think I 
 am. It's just that something about this whole issue makes me just 
 unbelievably sad. 
  
 Nancy 
  
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