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  Msg # 175 of 4021 on ZZNE4432, Sunday 5-13-23, 4:43  
  From: KEVIN  
  To: DON AITKEN  
  Subj: Re: newsgroup message propagation  
 From: Kevin@nothere.etc 
  
 Don Aitken   wrote; 
 >On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:57:48 +0000, Kevin  wrote: 
 > 
 >> 
 >>When a 'cross-posted' message is sent from my computer. 
 >>(it is sent initially as one message to my ISP.) 
 >>How is it then propagated / distributed /split (or not) and then 
 >>picked up in each group etc.  on leaving the local ISP's server,? 
 >> 
 >>where is the message stored while it is kept live? 
 >> 
 >>Can someone explain  R FC850/ R FC1036 a little simpler? 
 >>I need to re-explain it to someone else:-( 
 >> 
 >Here's a simplified version. It stays as one message throughout. In 
 >principle a news server doesn't know anything about "groups", only 
 >messages. Each message has a set of headers, including a "Newsgroups:" 
 >header, which specifies the list of groups it "belongs" to. 
  
 I think it is in between this area  that I an trying to find out 
 about. 
  
 How and where is the message at this point. is it in  a single  file 
 somewhere for each group folder, or a single message in  folder. 
 Be it a very big one :-( 
  
 >When a 
 >news client asks for the messages in a particular group, it gets sent 
 >all the messages which have that group specified in the "Newsgroups:" 
 >header. 
  
 >There is a complication, because many news providers, in these days of 
 >increasing volume, find it necessary to split their news database over 
 >more than one server. One way of doing this is to split them by group; 
 >where this is done there may be more than one copy of the same 
 >message, one on each server which carries any of the groups specified. 
  
 That fits in perfectly with  what My isp's are saying 
 although they are not new ISP systems  they have been 
 going for the gut of 10 yrs. 
  
 As said in my reply to Jon B's post many Thanks and I am not  messing 
 and apologise if  I come across that way,  I can be thick too:) 
 I'm just trying hard to understand this so that I can re-explain it, 
  
 Kevin 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
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