BarB wrote: 
  
 > 
 > Almost all groups that fail, fail for lack of "yes" voters, not from 
 > negative votes. Maybe someone here remembers the last time a group was 
 > defeated by a high negative vote. I don't. 
 > 
  
 2003 
  
 Yes     No    status 
 75 30 U rec.games.miniatures.marketplace 
 111 38 M misc.kids.family-life 
  
 2002 
  
 121 29 M sci.military.nuclear-bio-chem 
  
 are the nearest examples of large No votes in last 20 months, of these 
 non achieved a recomended Yes vote of 125 and one would have failed with 
 no No votes. 
  
  
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