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  Msg # 416 of 32000 on ZZNE4431, Saturday 5-12-23, 2:29  
  From: BILL COLE  
  To: JIM RILEY  
  Subj: Re: Creating a new moderated group vs. m  
 From: bill@scconsult.com 
  
 In article , 
  Jim Riley  wrote: 
  
 > On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 23:52:06 -0400, Bill Cole  
 > wrote: 
 [...] 
 > >The counter-example is comp.ai. Bad idea. 
 > 
 > Why was it a bad idea?  It worked. 
  
 Not all that well. It also took years (and may not yet be complete) for 
 all sites to make the switch. 
  
 [...] 
 > >                                         We still have occasional 
 > >visits by the troll who considers the switch a fascist suppression of 
 > >free speech and thought by the evil Russ Allbery. The troll has an 
 > >obsession with oral sex. His visits were kinda funny for a month or two, 
 > >but it has been years now.  Thankfully he is less crafty than Jay 
 > >Stevens. 
 > 
 > Bloxy's did not even notice that comp.ai had become moderated until 6 
 > months after it had been converted.  This is especially ironic since 
 > he did participate in the RFD threads, though apparently without being 
 > aware of what the discussion was about. 
 > 
 > I don't understand your reasoning with regard to Bloxy's.  The 
 > argument is made that news.groups can handle infestations such as his, 
 > and that other ordinary groups should be able to handle similar 
 > threats.  Yet when a group has successfully been moderated in place, 
 > and it causes entities such as Bloxy's to attack news.groups, it is 
 > somehow now a problem for news.groups to handle. 
  
 The fact that vermin can be dealt with doesn't make them desirable. 
  
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