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  Msg # 392 of 32000 on ZZNE4431, Saturday 5-12-23, 2:29  
  From: BRUCE MURPHY  
  To: JEREMY NIXON  
  Subj: Re: 4th RFD: rec.photo.digital reorganiz  
 From: pack-news@rattus.net 
  
 Jeremy Nixon  writes: 
  
 > Bruce Murphy   wrote: 
 > 
 > > Such as? What _specific_ topics, apart from the two obvious ones above 
 > > are relevant to SLR-with-interchangeable lenses and not relevant to 
 > > SLR-without-interchangeable-lenses? 
 > 
 > Honest question: do you know anything about photography? 
  
 Yes. 
  
 > Different types of cameras are used in different ways.  It's not about 
 skill 
 > level; when I use a point and shoot camera, I'm using it very differently 
 > from when I'm using an SLR.  That's just what happens. 
  
 And the same types of cameras are also used in different ways. This 
 isn't a helpful point. Different types of cameras are also used in the 
 same ways. I think that's the whole set. 
  
 > An SLR with a fixed lens is used the same way as a "ZLR" camera (I still 
 > hate that name).  The only reason it's an "SLR" is because of a technical 
 > distinction that no one cares about, that doesn't affect the use of the 
 > camera in any way, and that certainly has no bearing whatsoever on the 
 > way people talk about photography.  The thing that makes a camera an SLR 
 > is something that just plain doesn't matter to anyone -- and most people 
 > who know what "SLR" means and use the term don't even know what it means 
 > in a technical sense anyway.  The "SLR" distinction, in its literal, 
 > technical sense, is totally meaningless. 
  
 *sigh* 
  
 For the third time. What _specific_ topics, apart from the two obvious 
 ones (lens choice and sensor cleaning) are relevant to an 
 SLR-with-interchangeable-lens and not relevant to a 
 SLR-without-interchangeable-lens ? 
  
 Stop ranting, stop telling me how little I know about photography, 
 stop inventing a populace that thinks about SLR the same way you do, 
 and answer the pertinent question. 
  
 > > I never said it was. I don't see how a D2H with a 50mm f/1.8 lens welded 
 > > to the front is a 'point and shoot camera' of course. That's your 
 > > characterisation. 
 > 
 > No, that's you being an obstinate jerk. 
  
 Because you think it /is/ a point and shoot camera, or because you 
 think it isn't? Before you go on about how this is a corner case, the 
 slr-without-interchangeable lens (E10/E20 seems current consensus) are 
 in fact corner cases. 
  
 B> 
  
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