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  Msg # 360 of 32000 on ZZNE4431, Saturday 5-12-23, 2:28  
  From: BRUCE MURPHY  
  To: RUSS ALLBERY  
  Subj: Re: RFC2822-compliant email addresses  
 From: pack-news@rattus.net 
  
 Russ Allbery  writes: 
  
 > Bruce Murphy  writes: 
 > 
 > > Frankly, increasing numbers of places offer something like tagged email 
 > > addresses, and once you /have/ set something like that up with a 
 > > specific USENET address, it's actually pretty easy to set up extremely 
 > > effective filters, since USENET replies will have a fairly specific 
 > > form. 
 > 
 > Yeah, I posted something about that a long time back to the net-abuse 
 > groups and even wrote a test implementation, where all messages addressed 
 > to a particular address were rejected unless the message contained a 
 > References or In-Reply-To header containing a particular message ID 
 > pattern. 
  
 An even more complex, but arguably more interesting, way of doing it 
 is to add a unique token to every email address. These tokens can then 
 be individually expired into varying levels of spam-filtering. Cute 
 idea, but overkill in many respects. 
  
 > I personally have other ways of dealing with spam and therefore 
 > never bothered to implement it for myself, but it seemed like a fairly 
 > obvious idea five years ago.  I'm surprised it never seemed to gain any 
 > traction. 
  
 I find that most other ways of dealing with spam tend to be higher 
 maintenance than this. Speaking as someone involved in afairly large 
 project on the matter of course :) 
  
 > Note that one big problem with tagged addresses is that a lot of them just 
 > add something onto one's main mailbox.  That's exactly the wrong way to do 
 > it, since of course spammers routinely just strip the tags.  The right way 
 > to do tagged addresses is to post from rra+usenet@stanford.edu, have 
 > rra@stanford.edu bounce or go through very aggressive spam filtering, and 
 > have one's personal inbox be rra+xqr or something else equally 
 > unguessable. 
  
 'pack' isn't my normal email prefix :), Yes, it's all presupposed on 
 having enough foresight to start something like this up immediately. 
  
 B> 
  
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