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  Msg # 31893 of 32000 on ZZNE4431, Saturday 5-12-23, 2:24  
  From: RU.IGARASHI@USASK.CA  
  To: JAMES BAZZA  
  Subj: Re: 2nd RFD: soc.religion.satanism  
 Sorry for being late with this critique... 
  
 In news.groups James Bazza  wrote: 
 >                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) 
 >               unmoderated group soc.religion.satanism 
  
 ... 
 >Newsgroup line: soc.religion.satanism Satanism and the Satanic way of 
 >life. 
  
 ... 
 >RATIONALE: soc.religion.satanism 
  
 This should be named talk.religion.satanism, if it is not going to 
 be moderated. 
  
 >There are no newsgroups within any of the eight traditional Usenet 
 >hierarchies 
  
 Um, which hierarchies are "the traditional Usenet hierarchies"? 
 If you mean the Big-8, use the term "Big-8" or "Big-Eight", 
 because these days, "traditional hierarchies" no longer has meaning 
 in these hierarchies. 
  
 >that focus on the discussion of Satanism. Creation of 
 >soc.religion.satanism would fill this gap. 
  
 You really should elaborate on "this gap".  The mere lack of existence 
 of such a group does not mean the subject is not discussed in the 
 Big-8, or that there is no group where it is discussed as a subtopic 
 of a more general subject.  What about talk.religion.misc (e.g. why 
 is it in the distribution)? There may be little in the way of a gap 
 at all. 
  
 And on the topic of other groups, what other non-Big-8 groups do 
 exist that discuss satanism?  You have alt.satanism in your 
 distribution.  How will the existence of that group impact the 
 proposed group?  Will readers be expected to move from there to 
 the proposed group?  Do those reader actually want to move to 
 the proposed group? 
  
 ... 
 >CHARTER: soc.religion.satanism 
  
 >S.R.S. is here to encourage a greater exchange of information and to 
  
 Expand the acronym.  Write the CHARTER as a standalone document. 
  
 ... 
 >The Nine Satanic Statements (From the Satanic Bible) 
  
 I'm not familiar with the subject, but if the list below and text 
 above is not the only representation of Satanism, it would be 
 inappropriate to list it in the CHARTER, and should be replaced by 
 a more generic description, outline, or summary of Satanism and, 
 more importantly, what topics would be considered acceptable or 
 unacceptable.  A CHARTER is supposed to indicate the scope of the 
 acceptable topics, not the principles behind the subject.  It's 
 supposed to tell folks the kind of topics the regulars of the group 
 discuss, and what they can post.  So if you are going to make a list, 
 list major topics. 
  
 >I  Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence! 
 ... 
  
 >END CHARTER. 
  
 ru 
  
 -- 
 My standard proposals rant: 
 Quality, usefulness, merit, or non-newsgroups popularity of a topic 
 is more or less irrelevant in creating a new Big-8 newsgroup. 
 Usenet popularity is the primary consideration. 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) 

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