From: RBKSPAMCATCH@.att.net 
  
 Thanks for the woodcentral suggestion I'll give it a try. I maybe should 
 have suggested something like rec.furniture or rec.cabinetmaking as they are 
 perhaps more to the point of what I am looking for. 
  
  
 "Charlie Self"  wrote in message 
 news:20040908162747.09844.00000211@mb-m19.aol.com... 
 > rk states: 
 > 
 > 
 > Why not try the message boards in woodcentral? There is a hand tool 
 > message 
 > board as well. Ellis and crew do as fine a job of moderating as anyone 
 > could 
 > want, some of the woodworking and woodworking discussion is well above the 
 > mundane, it's already in place, though I guess not a standard NG, and has 
 > been 
 > working for years. 
 > 
 Well you may be right that only a half-dozen current people are irratated. 
 but I do know of a couple of other people in the business who stay away 
 because of the general tone and it has caused me to wonder how many more 
 there may be.  Mundane was perhaps a bad choice of words on my part sorry. 
 It is sometimes easy to forget there are many levels of people reading the 
 newgroup including some who are new to woodworking. On the other hand there 
 are others who are perhaps more experienced and stop showing up because of 
 the lack of relevent topics. It is very difficult for one newsgroup to serve 
 everyone equally well. Its probably the reason we have so many different 
 makers of tools, different woodworking related magazines and different 
 flavors of ice cream. Everybody like someting a little different. It would 
 be nice to have a more friendly forum for those of us who find the porn and 
 related items very offensive. 
  
 > Seems like to me this proposal is trying to solve a problem that is 
 > apparent to 
 > about a half-dozen people while ignoring the many who are happy with 
 > things as 
 > they are, digressions and all. The porn and generalized idiocy is easy to 
 > filter out. The rest presents what goes on in a woodworking shop, 
 > including 
 > woodworking concepts and assistance that I believe are well above your 
 > concept 
 > of mundane. 
 > 
 > It is the laid back part of the concept that moderation would destroy. 
 > Posters 
 > would constantly be having to watch their figurative steps to keep from 
 > getting 
 > booted. 
  
 Understand that it's not your or many others cup of tea which is why the 
 effort is not to try to change rec.woodworking but to form a new group. I 
 think if someone thinks thats a bad thing they can stay away from the new 
 group. If enough people stay away it will die and so be it. It looks like it 
 will never get a chance. I'm just moaning a little because it had my hopes 
 up for a while. Don't mean to cause any trouble over this so I will just 
 disappear again. Thank you for your comments and suggestions. 
  
 > Not my cup of tea. 
 > 
 > Charlie Self 
 > "Men stumble over the truth from time to time, but most pick themselves up 
 > and 
 > hurry off as if nothing happened." Sir Winston Churchill 
  
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