XPost: rec.photo.digital 
 From: alan.browne@FreeLunchVideotron.ca 
  
 Lionel wrote: 
  
 > Kibo informs me that Alan Browne  
 > stated that: 
 > 
 > 
 >>Lionel wrote: 
 > 
 > [...] 
 > 
 >>>And you're happy to spend the rest of your life explaining that to 
 >>>random newbies who feel that their G3 & collection of add-on lenses 
 >>>*are* on-topic, according to the charter? 
 >> 
 >>I wouldn't bother.  The notion is indefensible.  As your other 
 >>post points out, these additional lenses are "add on" or 
 >>"converters" of the lens in place. 
 > 
 > 
 > You're missing my point completely, Alan. I'm well aware of what you & 
 > Thad mean by 'interchangeable lenses', but my point is that many 
 > potential users of the group *won't* be aware of that unless someone 
 > explains it to them. And that's not even considering the potential for 
 > trolls like Steve Young to use this kind of nit-picking to stir up 
 > trouble within the group. 
  
  
 1- there will be a resource page where this will be clearly 
 explained in plain english along with direction on where to go. 
 2- For the fellow who really doesn't get, a  link thereto, rather 
 than a detailed explanation by posters every time is more than 
 enough reply when it occurs, which won't be that often. 
 3- If we attempt to design an NG to be perfectly troll proof, we 
 won't get anything done, period.  Trolls are best dealt with in 
 the usual way. 
  
  
  
 > 
 > 
 >>Further, the G3 fails in that it is not a reflex 
 > 
 > 
 > That's debatable. The viewfinder uses the same lens as the imaging 
 > surface, & displays the same image as appears on the sensor. The only 
 > difference is that the reflex action is achieved electronically, rather 
 > than with a movable mirror. 
  
 Right.  It's not a reflex.  So it fails to meet the charter def. 
 on at least two major points.  Clear enough to me. 
  
 > 
 > 
 >>>No, but it should be as close as is practical, & it should definitely 
 >>>describe the *intent* of the newsgroup. 
 >> 
 >>It *is* as close as practical IMO. 
 > 
 > 
 > Not in mine. 
  
 You've given no thought at all to the ancestry of the group and 
 how it came to be.  It takes the SLR portion from rpd and it 
 takes the system camera aspect from rpe35mm.  That includes, as a 
 minor part, the rangefinders ... and this is clearly stated in 
 the proposal and charter. 
  
 Cheers, 
 Alan 
  
  
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