XPost: rec.photo.digital 
  
 In news.groups Jeremy Nixon  wrote: 
 >   wrote: 
  
 >> I think the problem that Lionel and I have is that it's not clear what 
 >> the intent actually is.  Serious photographers, yes -- meaning those 
 >> who don't just want a point-n-shoot to send photographs of the kids to 
 >> grandma.  But I would expect that applies to E20 users just as much as 
 >> Digital Rebel. 
  
 > Yes, and it can also apply to users of compact cameras, or medium 
 > format cameras, or view cameras, but that's not actually the intent 
 > of the proposal.  An E20 user can be just as serious about 
 > photography as a Digital Rebel user, but the two aren't likely to 
 > find the same discussions equally useful, 
  
 The only discussions that will be _totally_ useless to a user of an 
 SLR like the E20 are those discussing choice of lens.  Maybe these 
 will be the majority of postings.  I doubt it: it's more likely to be 
 Canon vs. Nikon.  (sigh) 
  
 > any more than a view camera user (digital or not) will find the 
 > discussions in the proposed group useful, or any more than a compact 
 > camera user (however serious) will find them useful.  They're just 
 > not used and talked about in the same way. 
  
 I don't know that is true.  But even if it were true, is that 
 sufficient reason a priori to exclude such discussion? 
  
 Many buyers of SLRs like the Digital Rebel will leave the kit lens on 
 the camera for the whole of its life, and use it in exactly the same 
 way and think of it in exactly the same way. 
  
 > Users of a hypothetical digital Leica M8, however, will probably 
 > find themselves right at home in the proposed group -- that kind of 
 > camera is used by the same sort of people in the same ways and 
 > presents the same kind of topics. 
  
 > How do you think your E20 user is going to feel after the tenth time 
 > he's told he can solve his problem by getting a different camera, one 
 > he probably doesn't even want? 
  
 Well, that depends.  Is the advice good? 
  
 > Don't you think he might rather get advice from similar users that 
 > he might find actually useful?  How much of that is there going to 
 > be in the proposed group? 
  
 > On the other hand, a Leica rangefinder user is going to be in the 
 > same place, discussion-wise, as the rest of the folks in the 
 > proposed group, so it makes no sense to exclude him just because we 
 > don't happen to have a simple word that covers both technical types 
 > of cameras. 
  
 It seems to me that you're assuming a lot here. 
  
 I do not believe that an assumption that people with Digital Rebels 
 have fundamentally different kinds of discussions from people with 
 E20s is justifiable. 
  
 Andrew. 
  
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