XPost: rec.photo.digital 
 From: nop@alt.net 
  
 Kibo informs me that "Arthur L. Rubin"  
 stated that: 
  
 >Alan Browne wrote: 
 > 
 >> Adding a lens element is NOT interchangeable. Degrading a lens by 
 >> such artifice is anathema to the whole point of interchangeable 
 >> lenses. 
 > 
 >OK, at this point -- I'm leaning toward a NO vote.  Your 
 >use of the word "anathema" suggests a religious tone which 
 >would make this group unusable unless moderated. 
  
 This is why I think that the charter needs to be scrubbed clean of 
 anything that could be interpreted as elitism. IMO, Failng to do so will 
 result in a flamepit. 
  
 >I acknowledge that the views of the proponent as to the 
 >topics covered by a group are completely irrelevant unless 
 >encapsulated in the charter, but this leads me to the 
 >conclusion that no r.p.d.* group could survive unmoderated. 
  
 Fortunately, the hierarchy isn't /that/ bad. (Although it does have its 
 moments wher you could be forgiven for thinking it.) Making sure that 
 the name & charter are crystal clear to potential users will prevent 
 most religious wars. 
  
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