From: bard@dmcom.net 
  
 On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:04:58 GMT, John McWilliams  
 wrote: 
  
 >{group adjusted} 
 > 
 >Rebecca Ore wrote: 
 >> In article , 
 >>  "Richard Henry"  wrote: 
 >> 
 >> 
 >>>"Woodchuck Bill"  wrote in message 
 >>>news:Xns9560E3CFFAFFbswr607h4@130.133.1.4... 
  
 >>>>Gents, would you kindly discuss RPD charter amendments in RPD, and not in 
 >>>>news.groups? Thanks. 
  
 Not sure if stribures are correct, there is no good place to discuss 
 amendending a charter.  A Charter can not be changed , except 
 (posible) in a re-org. 
  
 >>> 
 >>>I thought that was one of the purposes of news.groups. 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> No. 
  
 News.groups discusses proposed new charters, not changing existing 
 ones.  Also of things not on-topic here is users not following the 
 charter. 
  
  
 > 
 >I posted that here because I am looking for confimation/experience re 
 >the *process* that people here in .news possess. 
  
 There is an FAQ in my sig that summerises the process and purpose of 
 this group. 
  
 > 
 >If someone would be kind enough to address those questions and remove 
 >r.p.d as I have done with this reply, I would appreciate it. 
 > 
 >> My impression from what Russ said, and Jeremy above, is that some ISP's 
 would act if sent a complaint and excerpts -or the whole document- from a 
 reasonably ratified amendment to a Charter. Of course, others won't, but 
 they 
 won't anyway. 
 >> 
  
 Some ISP or NSP will act on complaints based on the charter, there can 
 only be one, some however might look to an FAQ well maintained as a 
 guide to posible abuse of the current group dynamic (which might be 
 off charter). 
  
 >> It's up to those who care about the Charter of rpd to amend it; to work 
 out 
 the wording, the voting, the ratification of votes, and the dissemenation of 
 same periodically to the NG and anywhere else it may be needed. I'd be 
 willing 
 to help here, but I 
 would think a process not too dissimilar to a new Charter makes sense- 
 others? 
 >> 
  
 There is no way to admend a charter, no votes no process to have the 
 official charter amended.  The only way a charter can posible be 
 changed is though a re-org of a number of groups.  The minimun time to 
 achieve such a thing is 47 days, though most likely will take much 
 longer. 
  
 >> I take it there's no practical way to get it attached to the original or 
 "filed" in proximity to it...(?)<--- a question for the reg. vols. 
  
 Wel there are ways to forge a control message however most providers 
 would ignore it.  Also whomever sending to forge might be subjected to 
 losig access to internet via which provider used to send a frodged 
 message. 
  
  
  
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