From: don-aitken@freeuk.com 
  
 On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 00:51:15 +0100 (BST), bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian 
 {Hamilton Kelly}) wrote: 
  
 >On Friday, in article <87acvyc8ew.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> 
 >     rra@stanford.edu "Russ Allbery" wrote: 
 > 
 >> Brian {Hamilton Kelly}  writes: 
 >> 
 >> > You guys _really_ need to look at the acceptability criteria adopted by 
 >> > uk.*; the only thing that surprises me is that these disruptive elements 
 >> > were first detected, "outed", and vitiated in that hierarchy.  I had 
 >> > assumed that the Big8 would have already had to encounter these 
 >> > stupidities and overcome them before uk.* suffered. 
 >> 
 >> uk.* has had substantially more formal procedure than the Big Eight for 
 >> quite a while now. 
 > 
 >Until I recently returned to this group (after a 10+ year absence) I 
 >hadn't realized this.  It is perhaps illuminating that one of the 
 >criticisms that used to be levelled against the RFD/CFV procedure in uk.* 
 >is that "it takes months to create a group", often quoting as precedent 
 >the "fact" that this is the case in the Big8. 
 > 
 >So, I guess you guys haven't invented Fast-Track either, then? 
  
 There are a lot of advantages to the way uk.* does things, and one big 
 disadvantage, which is that no normal person would voluntarily expose 
 themselves to the hordes of nitpickers, lunatics and time-wasters who 
 infest uk.net.news.config. Those who sometimes complain that 
 news.groups is bad have no conception of what bad can be. 
  
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