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  Msg # 111 of 32000 on ZZNE4431, Saturday 5-12-23, 11:57  
  From: MATTHEW MONTCHALIN  
  To: ORCHID  
  Subj: Re: RFD: rec.pets.cats.breeds  
 XPost: alt.cats, us.config 
 From: mmontcha@OregonVOS.net 
  
 On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Orchid wrote: 
 |On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:46:31 -0700, Matthew Montchalin 
 | wrote: 
 | 
 |>On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, ~*SooZy*~ wrote: 
 |>|rec.pets.cats.breeds is a brilliant idea... 
 |> 
 |>But is it properly named?  Why is the proposed name any better 
 |>than rec.pets.cats.pedigrees?  Okay, it's arguable whether creating 
 |>a new newsgroup in the alt.* hierarchy is any easier than creating 
 |>one in the Big8, but have you considered alt.cats.pedigrees? 
  
     
  
 | The reasoning for rec.pets.cats.breeds being the newsgroup 
 |name is that it follows the same sort of naming convention that exists 
 |in the dogs groups. 
  
 Thanks for bringing that up.  I would agree there ought to be some 
 kind of semantic balance between dog newsgroups and cat newsgroups. 
  
 |The group for purebred discussion is rec.pets.dogs.breeds, and the 
 |naming makes a lot of sense to me. 
  
 Do the registries for dogs allow cat owners to register their 
 animals there?  At least somewhere in this thread, I mentioned 
 how desirable it would be to register a cat that contains a 
 gene from another species.  It might be very interesting owning 
 a cat that has a transplanted dog hemoglobin gene in it, and it 
 would be even more interesting to have the registration to prove 
 it. 
  
 |People looking for information on specific breeds will be easily 
 |able to find the group.  I do not feel that 'pedigrees' is as easily 
 |findable for the average person, and thus would oppose a 
 |name/heirarchy change. 
  
 There is the difference in syllables, too.  There are more English 
 speakers that know what the word 'breed' means, than know what the 
 word 'pedigree' means.  There's bound to be someone out there that 
 thinks the word 'pedigree' refers to a nail clipper, or a special 
 color that Crayola has created for its crayons. 
  
 | I also do not feel that limiting it to a US group is a good 
 |idea.  There are many multinational registries in the cat show world, 
 |including TICA (The International Cat Association) and FIFe 
 |(Federation Internationale Feline).  As well, cat breeds are not as 
 |splintered internationally as dog breeds -- while you can tell an 
 |English Lab from an American Lab, you will have very much less luck 
 |telling an English Bengal from a US Bengal from an Aussie Bengal. 
 | 
 | I am currently working on a rewrite of the proposal, and plan 
 |to submit it to additional groups as per various requests. 
  
 I don't know if your current proposal will fail a vote, but I do think 
 that a Call For Votes should be made, when the time comes.  You will 
 notice that I never said the proposal was a bad one, merely that the 
 word 'purebred' should be dropped out. 
  
 Still, for users that wish to discuss the pros and cons of registering 
 their cats with a few nationwide US based registries, surely 
 us.talk.cats+registries would be the best place to go to. 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) 

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