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 From: glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de 
  
 Hi, 
  
 On Wed, 2025-03-12 at 15:46 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: 
 > This is a continuation of #1040062, with two parts: 
 > 
 > First, I would appreciate if an x32 porter could take a look 
 > and approve that pie-{compile,link}.spec should also be dropped 
 > on x32. 
  
 Sure. I'm fine with whatever change gets us to build more packages 
 successfully on x32. I also appreciate these efforts, so thank 
 you very much! 
  
 > Changing gcc to default to PIE on x32 would likely work, 
 > but the current situation with x32 being the only half-PIE 
 > architecture due to the random set of packages with 
 > hardening=+all being PIE and others not causes breakage. 
  
 Yeah, that mixed configuration sounds like a bad idea. 
  
 > Examples of packages broken due to that: 
 > https://buildd.debian.org/freefem++ 
 > https://buildd.debian.org/gpgme1.0 
 > https://buildd.debian.org/gprbuild 
 > https://buildd.debian.org/libedlib 
 > https://buildd.debian.org/libgpiod 
 > https://buildd.debian.org/marisa 
 > https://buildd.debian.org/python-pylibacl 
 > https://buildd.debian.org/python-pyxattr 
 > https://buildd.debian.org/roc-toolkit 
 > https://buildd.debian.org/uncalled 
 > 
 > It also causes extra work when people workaround this 
 > breakage for individual packages: 
 > https://bugs.debian.org/1092588 
 > https://bugs.debian.org/1095522 
  
 Agreed. 
  
 > Second, even on architectures like m68k and sh4 where the pie 
 > specs do not make a difference there is the occasional breakage like 
 > https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=pylsqpack&suite=sid 
 > 
 > While this might technically be a bug in a package, 
 > obscure breakage only on some of the most exotic ports 
 > rarely lead to fixing. 
  
 Agreed. Let's turn it off on architectures where it currently causes 
 more problems than it solves. 
  
 Adrian 
  
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