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  Msg # 37 of 86 on ZZLI4428, Friday 9-04-25, 2:00  
  From: PAUL TAGLIAMONTE  
  To: HELMUT  
  Subj: Bug#1113864: Replace -fcf-protection=ful  
 XPost: linux.debian.bugs.dist 
 From: paultag@debian.org 
  
 > I have been instructed by Helmut Grohne from the technical commitee 
 > (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1113774#126) 
 > to open a bug here to ask for a change in the current hardening defaults 
 > of Debian for sid and future stable releases. 
  
 One thing of note here, Helmut said: 
  
 >> It also is enabled in forky/sid. While we somewhat disagree on the 
 >> importance of old i386 hardware on this matter, would you mind 
 >> additionally questioning the usefulness of -fcf-protection (=full) as 
 >> opposed to -fcf-protection=return to the project? I suggest that you 
 >> report a wishlist bug against dpkg-dev (which contains our default build 
 >> flags) and X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org to try to change 
 >> this for unstable. 
  
 It's worth noting here that the TC hasn't weighed in on anything yet - 
 this bug is mostly an extension of that discussion and the utility of 
 fcf-protection=full vs fcf-protection=return on amd64. 
  
 Not saying you did anything wrong here Marcos -- just emphasiszing this 
 bug should *not* be taken as the TC directly asking for this change. 
  
 I believe helmut, if I understood him correctly, intended for this bug 
 to be a discussion on the substance here, and a discussion about the 
 future configuration for sid while we keep understanding the 
 interactions for bookworm. 
  
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