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  Msg # 21 of 86 on ZZLI4428, Thursday 9-03-25, 1:16  
  From: GUILLEM JOVER  
  To: SIMON JOSEFSSON  
  Subj: Re: RFC: Consequences of redesign of .de  
 XPost: linux.debian.devel 
 From: guillem@debian.org 
  
 Hi! 
  
 On Mon, 2025-09-01 at 13:41:55 +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: 
 > Guillem Jover  writes: 
 > >  * Make the format extensible to other signature formats or workflows 
 > >    (such as x509, secure-boot, IMA, etc., even if there's currently no 
 > >    intention to add support for any of this). 
 > 
 > I think this is a useful goal to make sure there is no PGP specific 
 > assumption lurking.  The SSH signature format is low complexity, stable 
 > and widely implemented, so maybe supporting this would be possible?  If 
 > there is a framework to plug things into I may put some cycles into 
 > implementing SSHSIG support.  I think supporting Sigstore and Sigsum 
 > verification would be useful too, since I think in the coming years 
 > we'll look at non-transparency-signed software releases in a similar way 
 > that we look at non-signed software releases today. 
  
 While, I think leaving room for extension is important, I have no 
 immediate plans to consider implementing anything other then OpenPGP 
 for .deb signatures. Because this is internal to the .deb format, 
 and I don't see much gain currently in the added complexity of 
 alternative formats to do the same thing. 
  
 Although I think the design should be clear on the behavior when, say 
 multiple .deb signing formats/workflows are present, and how to react 
 to them! Or how to distinguish between a different signature format 
 (covering the same use case say .deb container signing with any of 
 OpenPGP, x509 or SSHSIG) vs a different signing workflow (say 
 potentially .deb container signing with OpenPGP/x509/SSHSIG vs 
 secure-boot for booting or IMA for filesystem metadata, etc.). 
  
 Thanks, 
 Guillem 
  
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