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  Msg # 243 of 505 on ZZLI4427, Saturday 9-12-25, 3:47  
  From: BLIZZARD FINNEGAN  
  To: ALL  
  Subj: Re: Deep Computing DC-ROMA ii won't boot  
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         I would highly recommend reading through the issues in the DC 
 ROMA 
 II Github page (see here: https://github.com/DC-DeepComput 
 ng/DC-ROMA_Gen2_LAPTOP_K1_RV-L2A ), just to get a sense 
 for the state of the device as a whole. 
  It's clunky, it's not ready, and it's largely been forgotten by 
 DeepComputing 
 as far as I can tell while they figure out their Framework Mainboard 
 endeavour. The JH7110 SOC is kinda the only good RISC-V chip to recommend 
 right now for anything outside 
 the absolute most niche cases, because it's been almost entirely upstreamed, 
 and therefore is supported by the Debian installer natively. RISC-V is a 
 really cool technology, and I love it a lot, but the hardware ecosystem 
 right 
 now is about the same as 
 the Raspberry Pi 2 was when it came out, and I mean that both from a 
 software 
 support standpoint and from a hardware performance perspective. 
  
         
        
       
   
   
   
   
   
   
    To be perfectly frank, if I could talk to my past self, I would   say to not buy this laptop and save myself the migraines. In a few years, it   will be better, but the hardware   barely runs on the hardware manufacturer blessed distro images. The fact   that   anyone tried to cram this chip in a laptop is a testament to the arrogance   of   man, because a laptop appeals to normal people, and this laptop is at best a   marketing stunt to   drum up good PR for RISC-V on the whole.   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
    On Thu, 11 Sept 2025 at 18:01, Kirk Reiser <kirk@reisers.ca> wrote:   
   
   
   
    Hello folks: Thank you for the responses.   
   
   
   
   
     The laptop did infact come with ubuntu-24.04 installed, except   it was   
   
     a greatly reduced package, they say because it wasn't expected   that a   
   
     lot of people would login. It was kind of bogus in my mind.   
   
   
   
   
     I upgraded the OS to their most recent version of 24.04.3   except   it   
   
     craps out when trying to upgrade to their idea of the latest   kernel   
   
     6.14.0. The distro as shipped has kernel 6.6.36 except with   many   
   
     kernel modules missing. The upgrade of the kernel dies while   trying to   
   
     copy the dtb files from a nonexistant spacemit directory in   /boot. I   
   
     have tried many things to attempt to spoof the new kernel from   copying   
   
     over the installed dtbs to a new 6.14.0 directory with no joy.   
   
   
   
   
     Oh, and yes, it is using u-boot.   
   
   
   
   
     Unfortunately Some of the kernel modules which are missing are   the   
   
     speakup modules which I must have to provide speech in text   console   
   
     mode. That has also made it much more difficult because it   means   I   
   
     have to have a sighted person here to help me inst   ll/break/reinstall   
   
     various packages.   
   
   
   
   
     Upon examining the two debian images I tried to boot I   realized   that   
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