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 anything before RVA23, we all running out of chances to do better. 
  
 But anything after RVA23 from 2026, we will be doing our hardest in 
 pre-silicon upstreaming to set a record as X86 with the resources far less. 
  
 We would like to invite more upstreaming experience maintainers and 
 developers 
 to join us in accomplishing this together in making RISCV greater. And we 
 will 
 sponsor hardware resources for free.€€ 
  
 please pay attention to our official announcement!€€ 
  
 > From: "Blizzard Finnegan" 
 > Date:  2025€€€9€€€12€€€ (€€€€€€) 04:54 
 > Subject:  Re: Deep Computing DC-ROMA ii won't boot 
 > To: "€€€€€€€€€" 
 > Cc: "debian-boot", "debian-riscv 
  
 > For what it's worth, its not DeepComputing's fault. This is how new 
 hardware 
 and architectures go, and if hardware developers like SpacemiT and 
 Imagination 
 don't dump a ton of money, time, and effort into upstreaming (ideally before 
 the hardware 
 releases like Intel, AMD, and NVidia do), it's gonna keep sucking. SpacemiT 
 has a decent clip at upstreaming, but Imagination has had 5 years since the 
 release of the B-series GPUs (according to Wikipedia) and they *just* merged 
 BXM drivers (both the K1/ 
 M1 and the JH7110 use the BXE design, which is different enough to mean that 
 it most likely won't work). 
 > 
 > Furthermore, in fairness to Imagination, their OSS driver according to the 
 kernel mailing list appears to be from the ground up, and they're working 
 from 
 one design and fanning out to similar designs as they go. I can't exactly 
 say 
 I'd be doing a 
 better job in their position. 
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 > 11 Sept 2025 20:25:55 €€€€€€€€€ : 
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        absolutely agree on everything Blizzard said. 
  
 > > 
        We unreservedly apologised on the pain our customers going through.€€ 
  
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        most of our RISCV SoC suppliers understand the problem but with 
 upstream unfriendly like GPU. No mass production software quality is 
 guaranteed in non designated version LTS kernel. 
  
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        For those non display like integrated GPU related features, we seeing 
 the light of the tunnel once K1 upstreaming is done on CPU related as per 
 https://github.com/spacemit-com/linux/wiki€€, any external RISCV support GPU 
 will see the tunnel light 
 too. 
  
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        For any display like integrated GPU remains unresolved, th€€ best we 
 can do will probably be a huge no-guarantee display related patch on top of 
 the mainline kernel like We did in JH7110s Framework RISCV mainboard. 
  
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        Many thanks€€ 
  
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          From: "Blizzard Finnegan" 
  
 > > 
          Date:€€ 2025€€€9€€€12€€€ (€€€€€€) 03:09 
  
 > > 
          Subject:€€ Re: Deep Computing DC-ROMA ii won't boot 
  
 > > 
          To: ,  
  
 > > Hello again, 
 > > I'll explain below, but TLDR is between the accessibility requirements 
 and 
 the weird nature of the hardware, this is, in no uncertain terms, not the 
 laptop for you. I would highly recommend waiting, at least until the rest of 
 the K1 SOC is fully 
 upstreamed; the wiki page for this I will link again here: https 
 //github.com/spacemit-com/linux/wiki 
 > > 
 > > 
 > > Firstly, you ***cannot*** use a custom kernel for this device, at time of 
 writing. The hardware developer has a custom kernel that you *must* use for 
 this device, v6.6. While there is work in progress, a newer kernel that is 
 not 
 distributed by the 
 hardware developer will not work.€€ 
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