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 From: samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org 
  
 Hello, 
  
 Stuart Foster, le ven. 26 sept. 2025 00:28:25 +0100, a ecrit: 
 > I have now re-installed Debian 13 as a clean install, installed pulseaudio, 
 then purged it. This makes speakup work. 
  
 More precisely, it is removing the pipewire-alsa package that makes this 
 work, installing pulseaudio and removing it has mostly the effect of 
 removing the pipewire-alsa since the two are in conflict. 
  
 This is not a new issue, the sound servers have been an issue for 
 root/non-root screen reader access to sound for a lot of time. I had 
 not seen anybody actually take the time to discuss with upstream 
 pulseaudio or pipewire about it, that's why it never got really fixed, 
 just worked around in various ways. This summer, at debconf, I discussed 
 with a maintainer of the pipewire package, this resulted in the 
 pipewire-system-services package, which one can install to get a 
 system-wide pipewire server that both root and non-root screen readers 
 can use. Some details probably need to be fixed, testing&reporting 
 welcome, at least one issue is pending fixing: 
 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1115893 
  
 Samuel 
  
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