XPost: linux.debian.bugs.dist 
 From: christoph@grothesque.org 
  
 Xiyue Deng wrote: 
  
 > Though I cannot reproduce this on my stable system using your recipe. 
 > Can you check whether there are any residual previous installation of 
 > transient with the following command? 
 > 
 > ,---- 
 > | $ ls -ld /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/*transient* 
 > `---- 
  
 Thanks for coming back to me.  The command you give outputs the single 
 line 
  
 drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 154 Aug 13 17:01 /usr/share/emacs/site-li 
 p/elpa/transient-0.8.8 
  
 Also, M-x find-library RET transient does bring up version 0.8.8 of 
 transient.el. 
  
 The fact that you cannot reproduce this made me try as a different local 
 user.  And indeed, with the different user, I cannot reproduce the 
 problem as well! 
  
 So this must somehow depend on my user-specific configuration, but 
 shouldn€€€t €€€emacs -q€€€ disable most of it?  As far as I know, I do not 
 do 
 anything strange with environment variables. 
  
 Any suggestions what I could try to debug this? 
  
 Sean Whitton wrote: 
  
 > Seeing ## makes me think of elpa-llama ? 
  
 Yes, although I checked that llama itself works.  It seems to be related 
 indirectly, see 
 https://github.com/magit/magit/discussions/5441#discussioncomment-14408198 
  
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