XPost: linux.debian.bugs.dist 
 From: manphiz@gmail.com 
  
 Control: severity -1 wishlist 
  
 Sean Whitton  writes: 
  
 > Hello, 
 > 
 > On Sat 23 Aug 2025 at 06:05pm +02, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: 
 > 
 >> Package: emacs-editing-major-modes 
 >> Version: 1.2 
 >> Severity: normal 
 >> 
 >> Installing emacs-editing-major-modes wants to install 1 GiB of 
 >> packages... because it depends on emacs modes packages that themselves 
 >> are not big, but that themselves depend or recommend the 
 >> implementation for the language whose syntax they fontify. 
 >> 
 >> This renders the package rather not useful to install blindly to "get 
 >> all major emacs editing modes". This package should at most suggest 
 >> any such emacs mode package. Feel free to instead convince the package 
 >> maintainer of the emacs mode package to suggest their language 
 >> implementation instead of recommending or depending on it. 
 >> 
 >> In terms of size, elpa-haskell-mode is by far the main culprit, but 
 >> others include elpa-gnuplot-mode elpa-agda2-mode elpa-markdown-mode 
 > 
 > I don't think we should change emacs-editing-major-modes here. 
  
 +1.  emacs-editing-major-modes is provided so that Emacs on Debian 
 supports most known formats out-of-the-box, and recommending available 
 major modes in Debian is by design. 
  
 > 
 > Instead we should consider changing those other modes. 
  
 I think this may be desirable, as users are free to use externally 
 installed tools and the editing modes should still work. 
  
 Lionel: please feel free to file wishlist bugs modes that "Depends" on 
 the tools to downgrade to using recommends, such as the specific mode 
 packages you listed. 
  
 On the other hand, as emacs-editing-major-modes only recommends the 
 corresponding major modes, as a workaround you are free to skip 
 installing the modes you don't like.  Personally I skip elpa-agda2-mode 
 due to the same reason as you.  Also, I use aptitude to selectively 
 exclude them, which can be done easier than using apt. 
  
  
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 Xiyue Deng 
  
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