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  Msg # 278 of 1332 on ZZLI4424, Monday 8-31-25, 1:13  
  From: SALVATORE BONACCORSO  
  To: OUSAMA HALMOUS  
  Subj: Bug#1111722: linux-image-6.12.38+deb13-a  
 XPost: linux.debian.bugs.dist 
 From: carnil@debian.org 
  
 Control: tags -1 + moreinfo 
  
 Hi, 
  
 On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 01:48:30PM +0100, Ousama Halmous wrote: 
 > Package: src:linux 
 > Version: 6.12.38-1 
 > Severity: grave 
 > Justification: renders package unusable 
 > X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org, halmousousama@gmail.com 
 > User: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org 
 > Usertags: amd64 
 > 
 > Description of the Bug: 
 > The system experiences intermittent, complete freezes that manifest in two 
 distinct scenarios: 
 > 
 > Scenario A: Application-induced Freeze 
 > --------------------------------------- 
 > When a specific application (e.g., a web browser with many tabs) starts 
 consuming a very high amount of memory or CPU, it can cause the entire 
 system 
 to freeze. 
 > 
 > I want to clarify that this is distinct from a recoverable Out-of-Memory 
 (OOM) event. For instance, the attached dmesg log shows a case where the OOM 
 killer successfully terminated the 'lm-studio' process, and the system 
 recovered correctly. The 
 freezes I am reporting are different: the system becomes completely 
 unresponsive and does not recover, requiring a hard reset. 
 > 
 > Scenario B: Sudden, Unexplained Freeze 
 > -------------------------------------- 
 > The system also freezes randomly without any obvious trigger. The effect is 
 identical to Scenario A: the entire screen stops updating (like a paused 
 video), and the system becomes completely unresponsive. 
 > 
 > In both scenarios, the only way to recover is a forced shutdown by holding 
 down the power button. No kernel panic is displayed, and Ctrl+Alt F* keys to 
 switch to a console do not work. 
 > 
 > Diagnostic Steps Taken: 
 > I do not currently have logs from the last time either of these freezes 
 occurred. 
 > 
 > However, I have now enabled the Magic SysRq key (`kernel.sysrq = 1`). On 
 the 
 next freeze, regardless of the scenario, I will attempt a safe reboot using 
 the `REISUB` sequence. I will then update this bug report with the logs from 
 the previous boot by 
 running `journalctl -b -1`. 
 > 
 > Please let me know if there are other diagnostic steps I should take or 
 specific information I can provide the next time this occurs. 
  
 Thanks for your report. 
  
 First, as the system seems to have OOT virtualbox modules loaded, 
 please try to reproduce the issue without those modules loaded (even 
 if you think it is unlikely releated, we will then have a untainted 
 kernel report to potentially forward upstream). 
  
 Secondly, were you able to reproduce the issue and if so can you 
 please provide full logs from the system when it happends. Ideally you 
 had already in place enabled magic SysRQ keys and can then issue 
 SysRq+t as well. 
  
 Consider attaching a netconsole to get as well more information before 
 system freezes. 
  
 For time beeing I will tag this moreinfo, please remove the tag once 
 you can provide the additional information/logs. 
  
 Regards, 
 Salvatore 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
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