XPost: linux.debian.bugs.dist
From: richard.lewis.debian@googlemail.com
On Sun, 10 Aug 2025, 13:39 Epickiwi, wrote:
> Package: release-notes
> Severity: important
>
> Hello !
>
> After upgrading to Trixie, I encountered issue described in 5.1.10
> "Encrypted filesystems need systemd-cryptsetup package" mainly because I
> didn't red the full Section 5 before rebooting.
>
I think there could be two reasonable responses to this. one is:
dont do that! the document is meant to be read as a whole, and if you dont
read it properly you cant complain that you didnt see the information that
was in there.
the other is: this shows that the structure doesnt work. section 5 tries to
distinguish between "the upgrade"/"before reboot"/"things in trixie"/etc,
but these arnt well-defined categories --- given the sections are
contributed by several different people, at the end of a release process
(little time for editing of the whole doc as a whole), it is hard to make
this work consistently. it would be better to have something simpler in
section 5
> I just checked 5.1.28 "Things to do before rebooting" and nothing
> related to 5.1.10 was mentioned there.
>
> After a quick search around section 5, another section mentioning some
> actions to take before rebooting in 5.1.16. "Network interface names may
> change".
>
> It's easy to miss thoses specific sections and just reboot resulting in
> failed boot (in case of missing systemd-cryptsetup) or bad network
> interface configuration.
>
> It could be good to add a mention of theses two issues in section 5.1.28
> in case reader did not red the entire Section 5 before rebooting.
>
> Epickiwi
>
>
On Sun, 10 Aug 2025, 13:39 Epickiwi, <me@epickiwi.fr> wrote:
Package: release-notes
Severity: important
Hello !
After upgrading to Trixie, I encountered issue described in 5.1.10
"Encrypted filesystems need systemd-cryptsetup package" mainly
because I
didn't red the full Section 5 before rebooting.
I think there could
be two reasonable responses to this. one is:€€€€
dont do that!
the document is meant to be read as a whole, and if you dont read it
properly
you cant complain that you didnt see the information that was in
there.
the other is: this shows that
the structure doesnt work. section 5 tries to distinguish between "the
upgrade"/"before reboot"/"things in trixie"/etc,
but
these arnt well-defined categories --- given the sections are contributed by
several different
people, at the end of a release process (little time for editing of the
whole
doc as a whole), it is hard to make this work consistently. it would be
better
to have something simpler in section 5
I just checked 5.1.28 "Things to do before rebooting" and
nothing
related to 5.1.10 was mentioned there.
After a quick search around section 5, another section mentioning some
actions to take before rebooting in 5.1.16. "Network interface names
may
change".
It's easy to miss thoses specific sections and just reboot resulting
in
failed boot (in case of missing systemd-cryptsetup) or bad network
interface configuration.
It could be good to add a mention of theses two issues in section 5.1.28
in case reader did not red the entire Section 5 before rebooting.
Epickiwi
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