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 From: jak@debian.org 
  
 On Sun, Nov 02, 2025 at 01:08:06PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: 
 > On 17764 March 1977, Julian Andres Klode wrote: 
 > 
 > > I plan to introduce hard Rust dependencies and Rust code into 
 > > APT, no earlier than May 2026. This extends at first to the 
 > > Rust compiler and standard library, and the Sequoia ecosystem. 
 > 
 > > If you maintain a port without a working Rust toolchain, 
 > > please ensure it has one within the next 6 months, or 
 > > sunset the port. 
 > 
 > > It's important for the project as whole to be able to 
 > > move forward and rely on modern tools and technologies 
 > > and not be held back by trying to shoehorn modern software 
 > > on retro computing devices. 
 > 
 > > Thank you for your understanding. 
 > 
 > > debian developer - deb.li/jak | jak-linux.org - free software dev 
 > > ubuntu core developer                              i speak de, en 
 > 
 > There might be really good reasons for using Rust in a tool like apt. 
 > 
 > They might even be good enough to ditch old ports - also I think that 
 > shouldn't be on one maintainers decision alone. 
  
 Do you mean "although"? 
  
 > 
 > But whatever good intention may be behind this move, the way this mail was 
 > written completly kills them. And completly makes it *appear* as "arrogant 
 > asshole developer imposing his wants on everyone" combined with "if you 
 dont 
 > like it, sod off, you don't matter". Especially with the end of it and the 
 > signature below. 
 > 
 > That might not be how it was meant (most probably), but that's how it goes 
 > around. 
  
 It's fair but also I did not come up with the sentiment, but was 
 paraphrasing the discussion with a fellow prominent DD on the 
 #debian-apt IRC channel: 
  
 2025-07-24 13:45:24       juliank Probably should rewrite parsers in Rust, 
 but 
 retrocomputing ports get in the way at least :D 
 [...] 
 2025-07-24 16:38:22        imvho retrocomputing ports are going to 
 have to start finding new ways forward, we can't keep holding the distro 
 back 
 2025-07-24 16:38:49        perhaps a retrocomputing based os, or a 
 forked apt they maintain for those arches 
 2025-07-24 16:39:13        if I had my way, we'd drop all 32 bit 
 arches as installable, and keep i386 around for a bit longer 
 2025-07-24 20:20:44       juliank I'm not gonna wait forever,  :D 
 2025-07-24 20:22:06       juliank I was saying EOY, but I'm open to May 2026 
 2025-07-24 20:25:06        nice :) 
  
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