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  Msg # 244 of 1179 on ZZLI4422, Saturday 10-03-25, 1:15  
  From: SOREN STOUTNER  
  To: DEBIAN DEVELOPERS  
  Subj: Re: Question about reproducibility tests  
 From: soren@debian.org 
  
 On Thursday, October 2, 2025 12:08:28€€€AM Mountain Standard Time Holger 
 Levsen 
 wrote: 
 > On Wed, Oct 01, 2025 at 04:20:16PM -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote: 
 > > I maintain pyinstaller-hooks-contrib, which includes a test (run during 
 > > build 
 > > and in autopkgtests) that parses the system timezone.  This test 
 currently 
 > > fails Salsa CI reprotest and other reproducibility tests because they 
 modify 
 > > the timezone in the build environment using syntax like GMT+12 instead of 
 > > the 
 > > Continent/City syntax. 
 > 
 > I think you have several options here: 
 > 
 > a.) set the timezone in the test (not 100% you can do this) 
 > b.) disable the test 
 > c.) disable Salsi CI reprotest and d.) 
 > d.) do not care about tests.reproducible-builds.org/debian result, esp 
 >     if it reproduces on 
 > https://reproduce.debian.net/all/unstable.html#pyinstaller-hooks-contrib 
 > which it does. 
  
 Yes, I can either disable the tests or ignore the results.  Neither is my 
 preferred option because the tests might catch some actual problem in the 
 future that I would then miss.  This is why I asked the question about 
 whether 
 using the GMT+12 syntax catches some actual problem that using 
 Continent/City 
 (this is the currently recommended way to set timezones in Linux) does 
 not. 
 If using GMT+12 is important for reproducibility tests, then I will simply 
 disable these tests in my package.  But if it isn€€€t, then my 
 recommendation 
 would be that Salsa CI and reproducible builds infrastructure and any other 
 part of Debian using the GMT+12 syntax be changed to use Continent/City. 
  
 -- 
 Soren Stoutner 
 soren@debian.org 
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