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  Msg # 20 of 1179 on ZZLI4422, Thursday 8-20-25, 12:33  
  From: DANIEL WESTWELL  
  To: TIPOSCHI@TISCALI.IT  
  Subj: Bug#1111472: general: Big issues with Th  
 XPost: linux.debian.bugs.dist 
 From: dgwestwell@gmail.com 
  
 Thanks Tomaselli- 
 This may well be a Wayland issue and I do wonder if the Debian developers 
 use 
 it with their Thinkpads if this is issue isn€€€t being taken seriously. 
 Thank God they don€€€t use Debian on the ISS! 
  
 On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 13:17:23 +0200 Salvo Tomaselli  
 wrote: 
 > Hello, 
 > 
 > Personally I install xserver-xorg-input-evdev and 
 > xserver-xorg-input-synaptics and remove the 
 > xserver-xorg-input-libinput one. Of course that only works if you are 
 > not using wayland. 
 > 
 > I don't know if that can work for you, for me the paste action is 
 > triggered when I release the middle button, but if I start scrolling 
 > then it scrolls and doesn't paste. 
 > 
 > WARNING: I AM NOT IN ANY WAY INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF ANY OF 
 > THIS, I AM JUST A THINKPAD OWNER. 
 > 
 > Best 
 > 
 > Il giorno lun 18 ago 2025 alle ore 13:07 Daniel 
 >  ha scritto: 
 > > 
 > > Package: general 
 > > Severity: normal 
 > > X-Debbugs-Cc: anonymous.duck@icloud.com 
 > > 
 > > Dear Maintainer, 
 > > 
 > > *** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where 
 appropriate 
 *** 
 > > 
 > > * What led up to the situation? 
 > > Lenovo Thinkpad's are commonly used for Linux installs due to their 
 modular and readily-available parts nature. 
 > > Lenovo Thinkpads (modern ones) have a dual mouse setup, a regular 
 Trackpad 
 and also the Thinkpad Trackpoint (little red nib) 
 > > This causes an insane amount of mouse glitches, including triggering the 
 known bug where the cursor moves on it's own 
 > > * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or 
 > > ineffective)? 
 > > I was forced to disable the trackpad entirely. 
 > > * What was the outcome of this action? 
 > > I now use the Trackpoint to navigate, however it is frustrating to scroll 
 because you have to hold the middle mouse button down- 
 > > to scroll with the trackpoint, but under Debian it triggers a paste 
 action. 
 > > * What outcome did you expect instead? 
 > > Would really like a option to disable middle-click paste (yes you can 
 disable paste selection on middle click, but not the clipboard) 
 > > Would also really like to increase reliability on dual mouse setups 
 (Quite 
 rare- but especially applicable to Thinkpad laptops) 
 > > I may have also been able to disable the trackpoint, but couldn't find 
 this option in the GUI, so disabled the trackpad instead. 
 > > Would be really nice to have both working at once. 
 > > 
 > > So to summarise, this is an issue concerning buggy support for dual-mouse 
 setups that especially effects Lenovo Thinkpad laptops. 
 > > 
 > > Thanks. 
 > > 
 > > *** End of the template - remove these template lines *** 
 > > 
 > 
 > 
 > -- 
 > Salvo Tomaselli 
 > 
 > I difensori della morale tradizionale sono raramente persone di cuore. Si 
 €€ 
 > tentati di pensare che essi si servano della morale come di legittimo sfogo 
 > al loro desiderio di fare del male agli altri. 
 > -- Bertrand Russell, Perch€€ non sono cristiano. 1957 
 > 
 > http://ltworf.github.io/ 
  
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