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  Msg # 171 of 1179 on ZZLI4422, Thursday 9-10-25, 1:10  
  From: MARC HABER  
  To: ALL  
  Subj: Re: Bug#1112535: /usr/lib/systemd/system  
 From: mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de 
  
 On Tue, Sep 09, 2025 at 08:30:30AM +0200, Bj€€rn Mork wrote: 
 >Daniel Baumann  writes: 
 > 
 >> Luca: Given the impact of this and the feedback you got, did you 
 >> reconsider and are you going to do it and when are you going to do it, 
 >> or should I go forward and do it? 
 > 
 >Why not? The deliberate delays imposed by bluca are still hurting Debian 
 >users. 
 > 
 >Apparently blucas feelings was so hurt by the this bug report that he 
 >had to take a few days off, while more and more Debian stable systems go 
 >offline around the world. 
 > 
 >I propose that Debian drops bullet point 4 from the social contract.  It 
 >looks like a bad joke at the moment. 
 > 
 >Or maybe there is one DD out there with enough repsect for Debian users 
 >to ignore the systemd maintainer bully? 
  
 The actual problem that we are facing that there is no possibility of 
 undoing the point release short of doing another quick followup 13.2 or 
 13.1.1 point release to fix this. The broken systemd is in _stable_ with 
 the old version gone, and security being the only possible way to get a 
 new version on our users' systems without manual intervention. 
  
 Greetings 
 Marc 
  
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