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  Msg # 1159 of 1179 on ZZLI4422, Thursday 11-05-25, 4:00  
  From: SEAN WHITTON  
  To: JOERG JASPERT  
  Subj: Re: Hard Rust requirements from May onwa  
 hppa, 
 14:57:34 
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 XPost: linux.debian.ports.68k, linux.debian.ports.hppa, linux.debian.ports. 
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 XPost: linux.debian.ports.alpha 
 From: spwhitton@spwhitton.name 
  
 Hello, 
  
 On Sun 02 Nov 2025 at 01:08pm +01, Joerg Jaspert wrote: 
  
 > On 17764 March 1977, Julian Andres Klode wrote: 
 > 
 >> I plan to introduce hard Rust dependencies and Rust code into 
 >> APT, no earlier than May 2026. This extends at first to the 
 >> Rust compiler and standard library, and the Sequoia ecosystem. 
 > 
 >> If you maintain a port without a working Rust toolchain, 
 >> please ensure it has one within the next 6 months, or 
 >> sunset the port. 
 > 
 >> It's important for the project as whole to be able to 
 >> move forward and rely on modern tools and technologies 
 >> and not be held back by trying to shoehorn modern software 
 >> on retro computing devices. 
 > 
 >> Thank you for your understanding. 
 > 
 >> debian developer - deb.li/jak | jak-linux.org - free software dev 
 >> ubuntu core developer                              i speak de, en 
 > 
 > There might be really good reasons for using Rust in a tool like apt. 
 > 
 > They might even be good enough to ditch old ports - also I think that 
 > shouldn't be on one maintainers decision alone. 
 > 
 > But whatever good intention may be behind this move, the way this mail was 
 > written completly kills them. And completly makes it *appear* as "arrogant 
 > asshole developer imposing his wants on everyone" combined with "if you 
 dont 
 > like it, sod off, you don't matter". Especially with the end of it and the 
 > signature below. 
 > 
 > That might not be how it was meant (most probably), but that's how it goes 
 > around. 
  
 Yes.  Julian, I know and trust you can do better than you did here. 
  
 -- 
 Sean Whitton 
  
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