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  Msg # 1075 of 1179 on ZZLI4422, Sunday 8-16-25, 8:23  
  From: SOREN STOUTNER  
  To: ALL  
  Subj: Re: Request to reconsider i386 (x86) por  
 From: soren@debian.org 
  
 On Saturday, August 16, 2025 5:28:24€€€AM Mountain Standard Time John 
 Goerzen 
 wrote: 
 > On Wed, Aug 13 2025, Aryan Karamtoth wrote: 
 > > i386 has been phased out a long time ago by many software projects as 
 well 
 > > as 
 > > operating systems. Even in Debian, it was still on life support and now 
 that 
 > > life support is gone. 
 > 
 > Without getting into a debate over whether i386 should or should not be 
 > dropped, as someone that runs other 32-bit archs, I wonder why armhf and 
 > armel weren't similarly targeted? 
  
 The core of the answer to the question is that significant numbers of 
 upstream 
 projects have dropped i386 support, making it untenable as a full 
 architecture 
 in Debian.  We simply can€€€t fork all those upstream projects to maintain 
 support. 
  
 The same thing can€€€t be said for armhf, where a lot of upstream projects 
 maintain support for it. 
  
 In other words, this wasn€€€t really a decision Debian made by itself, but 
 one 
 the entire technology community made and which Debian followed. 
  
 -- 
 Soren Stoutner 
 soren@debian.org 
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