From: ahmad@khalifa.ws 
  
 On 16/08/2025 18:33, Jeremy Stanley wrote: 
 > On 2025-08-16 14:53:26 +0200 (+0200), Joachim Zobel wrote: 
 > [...] 
 >> Not being able to do a MR is OK. Submitting a MR that I think might be 
 >> useful and never getting any reaction is frustrating. 
 > 
 > Is it frustrating enough to prompt you to reach out to the package 
 > maintainer(s) through other channels (bug report, E-mail, IRC), or is 
 > that level of effort too much to ask? 
  
 I would have considered that to be nagging. 
 The MR itself is just a cover page "bug" that points at a git branch. So 
 raising MR bug + raising BTS bug would have seemed pushy to me. 
  
 Until reading these threads and learning about salsa settings and the 
 different views maintainers have, now I view it differently. 
  
  
 > Note this is not meant as a rhetorical question nor a judgement. I see 
 > this sort of response crop up in multiple communities in which I 
 > participate and so am trying to understand what is an acceptable amount 
 > of investment vs what is deemed too much to bother with. Lots of 
 > established open source communities are struggling to cope with (in the 
 > opinion of many, unrealistic) expectations from incoming drive-by 
 > contributors, and it's a very tough balance to strike between existing 
 > workflows and how newcomers think free/libre open source collaboration 
 > happens. 
  
  
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 Regards, 
 Ahmad 
  
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