
| Msg # 1049 of 1179 on ZZLI4422, Sunday 8-16-25, 7:46 |
| From: ANDREY RAKHMATULLIN |
| To: JOHN GOERZEN |
| Subj: Re: Request to reconsider i386 (x86) por |
From: wrar@debian.org On Sat, Aug 16, 2025 at 07:28:24AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: >> i386 has been phased out a long time ago by many software projects as well as >> operating systems. Even in Debian, it was still on life support and now that >> life support is gone. > >Without getting into a debate over whether i386 should or should not be >dropped, as someone that runs other 32-bit archs, I wonder why armhf and >armel weren't similarly targeted? i386 as a partial port was deemed useful for many people. Besides, in the area where it's useful many of its old limitations can be lifted. >I don't know that most of the software Debian includes would be highly >opinionated about particular 32-bit archs. I suppose if compilers were >actively dropping support for i386, that would make a difference. (I >guess then I'd still have to wonder why they are dropping i386 but not >armhf) Software is actively dropping support for pre-SSE2 i386 (for many years already), I think that counts. But also, yes, compilers do this too, see the recent rust/clang discussion that led to the official baseline bump for i386 in trixie. >I note that armel will also be dropped for forky Good, but it's unclear why you mentioned it in the question then. Unless you've meant leaving it as a rump architecture for some reason? Or what did you actually want to ask? -- WBR, wRAR -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJhBAABCgBLFiEEolIP6gqGcKZh3YxVM2L3AxpJkuEFAmigfl0tFIAAAAAAFQAP cGthLWFkZHJlc3NAZ251cGcub3Jnd3JhckBkZWJpYW4ub3JnAAoJEDNi9wMaSZLh ywEQAJEPJUOiHYpqfYfM55dun7uygRmLIJUH+Yamgz6DLYuED6jg5432UuEINsUr xpakJK7yYTmb2BllqSRNxXxtGbmMlcy6ByPlfPOvCEOz4BL0cU/GicIiOXOOE/6k fX/g+F+M7sFf0RLFZd/VWZ++B8b5L08Vy1e/+XOHfdBdfrJtUAMm4Gj1RnpIjBSd j8RFU4qLYX/KYj+2RG38D5HwDd+LMi/TA/VNHnK5fQSxHD77FjyBFPnrrAoRtAq4 kCt1Lc4tSncq9d1IIvvpTkLoDfdF/byOv72/OgQaZecqaoObs2vrr5uH+FibBvCI cAVV8mazmyDt9oQsDnBzt82lq3pLz/Aiv9gTgYPLRopwZJIotPSFA4ydE7KdeNS7 SNb2Slw7sNNfYG6fSiHmOdjCmHWfl80nJ/CxaIoiCBDr2cawiI6fAshYglo3qRw5 Mma6Zw6n16u9/3IOMTGwWnM0CtfTVUPsEkR5UGkPbdhDA3tvndnFbhu+WO52abDY 7RwoTMfVkTfDE7K62M7WWbOHCgjxKUhaUF8zCzz6hAkLcIlGAyJpGZ/f7hu97g7a WTXUClMk0Kg8emoUnZhCSIscgZe63EBJEyXAP55ajDLGpoTxz4ivbmB1VqW2lGdp 1ARKB7izNqP9GQyLhgAuVrQ4TDEqngNCH8RkbiLoO4fqtUm5 =eHgR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) |
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