From: wanderer@fastmail.fm 
  
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 On 2025-10-05 at 10:00, Ansgar €€€€ wrote: 
  
 > Hi,€€€ 
 > 
 > On Sun, 2025-10-05 at 12:29 +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: 
 > 
 >> Andreas wrote: 
 >> 
 >>> If a copyright holder claims a package infringes their rights 
 >> 
 >> I'd like to believe that a mere "claim" should not be enough for us 
 >> to remove something in 48h or whatever short period of time. There 
 >> must be something of substance. Otherwise we would be at the mercy 
 >> of copyright trolls like SCO. 
 > 
 > Just ask yourself if software vendors other than Debian can do so. 
 > 
 > Can Microsoft release new versions of Windows, Office, Exchange, 
 > Sharepoint within 48 hours of receiving a claim that something 
 > infringes on someones rights? Including internal communication, 
 > identification of the relevant subsystem, implementing and testing 
 > required changes to other subsystems, rebuilding installation 
 > images, substituting retail packages, ... 
  
 They probably can't release a new version within that time-frame, no - 
 but they *might* very well be able to pull *existing* versions from 
 being available for download, within that time-frame. 
  
 At which point they (under what I think I gather the mindset and 
 argument involved to be) would have removed the claimed-as-infringing 
 material from distribution, and would then have a more flexible time 
 window for getting the work done to release a new version that might not 
 hit the same issue. 
  
 (Though, of course, in the case of malicious false claims, nothing would 
 ever be good enough to meet that standard.) 
  
 -- 
    The Wanderer 
  
 The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one 
 persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all 
 progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw 
  
  
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