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  Msg # 27 of 78 on ZZLI4420, Saturday 9-19-25, 1:28  
  From: ANDREW M.A. CATER  
  To: GIULIO SORRENTINO  
  Subj: Re: debian for m-disk  
 From: amacater@einval.com 
  
 On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 05:34:38AM +0200, Giulio Sorrentino wrote: 
 > I have an bdxl that i never used. 
 > There are no informations on how unify the catalogs of cd/dvd/bd/dlbd. 
 > 
  
 Maybe an explanation may help: the main media that Debian now provides 
 is one netinst per architecture and the first DVD. 
  
 The amount of mirror space needed to hold *every* size of disk becomes 
 prohibitive once you get to 40 DVD and so on. Most of the images larger 
 than a netinst are supplied as a jigdo file. 
  
 Use jigdo-lite and a mirror and you can build them: we do it at least 
 once for the 16GB stick and the single BD with every point release. 
 Above that size and it gets long and tedious to build the double layer 
 Blu-Ray (Stamdard Blu-Ray I guess is the same length/size as the m-disk??) 
 It's not economic in terms of time to build the dlbd routinely. 
  
 > Why do you not provide a jigdo for m-disk? 
 > 
  
 Very few people seem to be using physical media for archival purposes - 
 certainly not as many as were a few years ago and they were relatively 
 few. All of the bootable images can be written to a USB stick or similar 
 and almost all hardware can boot from USB. A 32G USB stick is cheap and 
 you could write a BD to it. 
  
 An archival M-Disk would be a very expensive way to write media if we 
 had to write one for every point release. 
  
 Hope this helps explain the rationale behind the image sizes and 
 availability. 
  
 With every good wish, as ever, 
  
 Andy Cater 
 (amacater@debian.org) 
  
 who is one of the regulars writing and testing media on every point release. 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
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