XPost: linux.debian.devel.release 
 From: tg@debian.org 
  
 On Sun, 12 Oct 2025, Andrew Bower wrote: 
  
 >[ Reason ] 
 >wtmpdb is a new package in trixie. 
  
 It should be noted that wtmpdb is a not unimportant package, as it is 
 the implementation of last(1) which is otherwise gone. 
  
 Likewise, the rotation is important, as session timing, combined with 
 uids and IPs even, is PII. 
  
 Having no wtmpdb in trixie would be an unacceptable loss in functionality, 
 and having one without working rotation or that doesn€€€t put its logs into 
 /var/log/ (which can be appropriately secured, put on tmpfs, excluded from 
 backups, etc. depending on applicable legalities) is a surprising piece of 
 work for the admins. 
  
 For the sake of completeness, I asked for a stable update with fixed log 
 placement and rotation, not one containing the upstream changes, but if 
 the maintainer feels it better and no less safe to include them and they 
 aren€€€t too onerous to review, I ask to at least look at the possibility, 
 and if rejected, please do so fast enough Andrew can prepare an alternative 
 version in which everything necessary is added as new patch atop the current 
 trixie package. 
  
 Thanks, 
 //mirabilos 
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 mksh auf jedem System zu installieren.€€€ 
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 (EN: €€€[€€€]uhr.gz is a reason to install mksh on every system.€€€) 
  
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