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 From: BLAH@NOSPAM 
  
 "Clark W. Griswold, Jr."  wrote in message 
 news:c0s1l05ciu43sr3n5nr00po1d45qr658g9@4ax.com... 
 > 
 > >> I'm looking into getting some light switches with passive infared (PIR) 
 > >> sensors and adjustable timer to automatically turn off lights that my 
 > >> kids seem to leave on all the time 
 > 
 > We have them in a few conference rooms at work and I'm not impressed. They 
 > require a fair amount of motion to stay activated. About the only place 
 they 
 > might work OK is a closet or some other room where there isn't a lot of 
 > activity. If you or the kids are watching TV, doing a puzzle or reading, 
 you 
 > might find yourself getting annoyed at waving your hands all the time. 
  
 If you want almost total coverage you pretty much have to go with a ceiling 
 mount type dome style. 
 Problem: expensive. 
  
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