From: tsanford@nf.sympatico.ca 
  
 "Waldo"  wrote in message 
 news:OPCOd.25517$Ub4.1069720@news20.bellglobal.com... 
  
 > Don't know how you figure that. My last Ontario hydro bill (Jan, 2005) 
 > showed 677 kWh for a total charge of $85.34. that's an actual cost to me 
 > of 12.6 cents per kWh. That's for a 33 year old, three bedroom, 1050 sq. 
 > ft house. 
 > 
 > You see, Hydro One and the Ontario Government lie big time. The bill 
 > breaks down to 677 kWh @ 4.7 cents which comes to $31.82. It then adds a 
 > delivery charge of $39.15, a regulatory charge of $4.45, a debt retirement 
 > charge of $4.34, and GST of $5.58. 
 > 
 > So this intentionally misleading crap they put out about holding the cost 
 > of electricity to a low level is pure BS! Your 9.1 vs my 12.6 cents looks 
 > pretty good to me! 
 > 
 Hi Waldo: 
 Many thnks for your response. "The devils is in the details" as they say! 
 That does seem to be a lot of overhead; that you can't do anything about, by 
 say reducing consumption! 
 Also presume from that info. you use some other form of energy for home 
 heating? 
  
 Some 30 years ago (1970) when we built his house there was very much a push 
 by the power company, "To live better electrically". So we made the decision 
 in the interest of not having to install boilers/furnaces chimneys/oil tanks 
 etc. to go electric although electric heating was rumoured, even then 
 (1970s) to cost more! 
  
 Our previous, somewhat smaller house, built in 1960 had used oil in a unit 
 that could operate without electricity; an advantage; because back then in 
 our community the electrical supply and generating capacity had not yet 
 become completely reliable. 
  
 The following is our typical bill for the period December 11th 2004 to Jan 
 10th 2005. 
 Basic customer charge.             15.75 
 2641 kWh @ 8.01 cents          211.56 Note 1 
 Discount 1.5%                           - 3.41 Note 2 
 HST 15%                                   33.59 
 Total charges                         $257.49 
  
 Note 1. Average; the kWh rate decreased by 0.5% Jan 1st 2005. 
 Note 2. Automatic 'paid on time' discount is applied because we have 
 arranged a 'budget' or EPP (Extended Payment Plan). As of now we have paid 
 back some $900 dollars that was under-billed by the EPP plan in 2003-2004 
 and have a $363.52 credit. Note 3. 
 Note 3. Weather was not that cold until well after Christmas. Also, in 
 comparison to some of the 2003-2004 winter I am living alone.  I could in 
 fact forego a monthly payment in view of the credit or could request a 
 decrease in the monthly EPP amount billed. 
  
 Trust this is of interest. Thanks again for the 'proper' info. Certainly 
 tells a different story does it not! 
  
 BTW I think your bill comes to $85.34? 
 If you 'were', just say, to use an additional 2000 kWh for electric heating, 
 to be roughly equivalent to our consumption, your bill would be then be 
 $85.34 plus (2000 x 0.047) = 85.34 + 94 = $179.34 
 Hmm that's still cheaper than ours!  i.e. $179.34/2677 = 6.7 cents per kWh. 
 Ah well; guess I have the advantage of living in Newfoundland! 
  
 My warm (electrically heated!) regards. Thanks for the discussion. Terry. 
  
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