From: sean@funland.com 
  
 Exactly these were instructors executing (poorly) an obviously premeditated 
 manoeuver. 
  
 I've had herbs fly base and final with the spoilers open and their hand came 
 off the handle.  They finally clued in when i asked them why we were landing 
 in the trees.  the spoilers went closed in a hurry. 
  
 PIC or not I would have had no problem slamming those things closed if I saw 
 the PIC was trying to kill me. 
  
 Sean 
  
 "C Story"  wrote in message 
 news:Xns9435CE6BFC779cstoryNOSPAMmagmaca@130.133.1.4... 
 > "Sean"  wrote in news:AdUtb.62002$jy.37922@clgrps13: 
 > 
 > > I just cant believe the spoilers were on the whole way.... 
 > 
 > I can .. having flown out of Picton for a couple 
 > of summers, it seemed that there was always at least 
 > one herb who would get overloaded ... crosswind, 
 > or downwind, lower/higher than expected, lift or sink, other 
 > traffic, etc. and would yank on the spoilers 
 > on downwind or base, and then forget about them, and 
 > would wind up planting a glider in the trees. 
 > 
 > I imagine it was similar with CLR ... as soon as they 
 > started the pullup, and started the turn, things 
 > probably unravelled pretty quickly .. and voila, 
 > same sort of overload situation. 
 > 
 > I would imagine they had no idea the spoilers were 
 > on, until seeing the pictures after the fact. 
 > 
  
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