XPost: calgary.general, can.general, can.politics 
 XPost: edm.general 
 From: rmgoatNO@SPAMshaw.ca 
  
 On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:05:56 GMT, "Don Wagner"  
 wrote: 
  
 > 
 >"Jon Flamming"  wrote in message 
 >news:20050116231726483-0700@news.telusplanet.net... 
 >> In  Don Wagner wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>  wrote in message 
 >>> news:1105911628.864007.140910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... 
 >>>> "Press your nose and make a buzzer sound" Glen 
 >>>> 
 >>>> 
 >>>> The question was: "How many Presidents have fought in combat in 
 >>>> the 
 >>>> last 200 years?" 
 >>>> . 
 >>>> The answer is still "zero". No Presidents have *ever* been in 
 >>>> combat. 
 >>> 
 >>> In no particular order 
 >>> 
 >>> Garfeild  -- Colonel in the Civil War. May have been at the battle, 
 >Brigadeer, later Major General. Led a brigade at Middle Creek, 
 >Kentuckey 
 > 
 >>> but may not have seen action. Wealthy family, you see. 
 > 
 >Right. Fatherless at 2. Canal boat horse driver. Wealthy my ass. 
 > 
 >>> George Bush -- The elder? Flew torpedo bombers in the Pacfic. Was 
 >>> shot 
 >>> down and recovered. 
 > 
 >The Elder 
 > 
 >>> Gerald Ford -- Who cares? 
 > 
 >>> U.S. Grant -- About the only real fighting he did was in the 
 >>> Mexican 
 >>> War. Commanded during the Civil War as a general, but generals 
 >>> never 
 >>> see action anyway. 
 >> 
 >>> Benjamin Harrison -- Another higher-ranking officer. Never really 
 >>> saw 
 >>> combat. Wealthy family. 
 > 
 >Born on a farm. Not wealthy. What does wealth have to do with it 
 >anyway? 
 >As far as combat, he was a Colonel. Not unheard of for them to see 
 >combat 
 >in that era 
 > 
 >>> William Henry Harrison -- Ditto 
 > 
 >Say lots of combat against the indians. 
 > 
 >>> Rutherford Hayes -- Same 
 > 
 >Strange how he got wounded if, as you say, he never saw combat. 
 > 
 >>> Andrew Jackson -- Actually did fight and really did kill. One of a 
 >>> very few number. 
 >>> John F. Kennedy -- Some question as to his combat record. Likely 
 >>> commanded a PT boat because they were unlikely to see action. Just 
 >>> J.F. 
 >>> K's luck it didn't turn out that way. 
 >> 
 >>> A. Lincoln -- Really did fight. 
 >> 
 >>> William Mckinley -- Actually was an member of command staff. 
 >>> Secretary 
 >>> will a rank. 
 > 
 >A Private as a member of Command staff? He ended the war as a brevet 
 >Major 
 >> 
 >>> James Monroe -- he fought. 
 >> 
 >>> Theodore Roosevelt -- He said he did. 
 > 
 >So did the men he commanded 
 > 
 >> 
 >>> Zachery Taylor -- Fought, but who cares? It's Zachary Taylor. 
 >>> 
 >>> Nixon, Ford and Johnson were all in WWII and may or 
 >>> may not have seen combat 
 >> 
 >> Are you kidding? Only the media or the motor pool was shot at. 
 >> 
 >>> 
 >>> Jimmy Carter was in the Navy and may have seen service 
 >>> in Korea 
 >> 
 >> Was in the US Navy so little got so match as a scratch in Korea. 
 > 
 >Not sure what you mean here. He was in the Navy for 7 years. 
 > 
 The US navy did take casualties and lose vessels (five, all 'mined') 
 in the Korean war but Carter was no where near it. 
  
 He was a submarine officer after two years on battleship (1946-1948), 
 and was assigned to the nuclear submarine program in 1950. Neither of 
 the two (at the time) nuclear 'boats' were deployed to Korea as the 
 construction took so long that SSN 571 USS Seawolf (Carter's ship) was 
 not even launched until 1957, after he had left the navy to take on 
 the family business after his father's death in 1953. 
  
  
  
  
 How many Bush staffers does it take to change a light 
 bulb? 
  
 Two, one to remove a good lightbulb and give it to a 
 millionaire and one to swipe a new light bulb from the 
 Social Security Administration 
  
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