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  Msg # 83 of 3283 on ZZCA4353, Monday 7-14-24, 8:01  
  From: JON FLAMMING  
  To: BOY TOY  
  Subj: Re: U.S. Death toll tops 8000  
 XPost: calgary.general, can.general, can.politics 
 XPost: edm.general 
 From: shhh@donttell.org 
  
 In <4q0pu09pb3sj47ujlmu8f4cmue2vdaokk8@4ax.com> Boy Toy  wrote: 
 > On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:15:05 GMT, Jon Flamming  
 > wrote in message <20050116181504567-0700@news.telusplanet.net> 
 > 
 >>In <1105911628.864007.140910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> bcpg@canada. 
 >>com wrote: 
 >>> "Press your nose and make a buzzer sound" Glen 
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >>> The question was: "How many Presidents have fought in combat in the 
 >>> last 200 years?" 
 >>> .. 
 >>> The answer is still "zero". No Presidents have *ever* been in combat. 
 >> 
 >> 
 >>George Washington saw combat during the French and Indian War. Not the 
 >>most successful part of his career, however. 
 >> 
 >>Andrew Jackson commanded troops at the Battle of New Orleans. 
 >> 
 >>U.S. Grant, during the Mexican War, commanded infantry in the field. 
 >> 
 >>Harry Truman commanded a tank regiment in WWI. 
 >> 
 >>There are other US Presidents that have made "claims" about being in 
 >>combat, often as generals, but generals never really see command. 
 >>Unless  their plans go totally foul and the enemy actually chases them. 
 > 
 > What about JFK?  As a PT boat commander in WWII.  PT109 IIRC. 
  
 Kennedy was on PT 109, because PT boats rarely saw combat. As for 
 Kennedy's heroics, there is a fair bit of doubt about the events that 
 surrounded that tale. What is known is that his father made sure that 
 everyone knew the story and no one could doubt it. Joe Kennedy always 
 got what he wanted. 
  
 > 
  
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