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  Msg # 68 of 3283 on ZZCA4353, Monday 7-14-24, 8:01  
  From: CALGARYBILL  
  To: ALL  
  Subj: Re: U.S. Death toll tops 8000  
 XPost: calgary.general, can.general, can.politics 
 XPost: edm.general 
 From: CalgaryBill@shaw.ca 
  
 "Peter White"  wrote in message 
 news:ZiGGd.213064$Np3.8936865@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... 
 > There was some other guy Ikey somebody. 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > Don Wagner wrote: 
 > >  wrote in message 
 > > news:1105911628.864007.140910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... 
 > > 
 > >>"Press your nose and make a buzzer sound" Glen 
 > >> 
 > >> 
 > >>The question was: "How many Presidents have fought in combat in the 
 > >>last 200 years?" 
 > >>. 
 > >>The answer is still "zero". No Presidents have *ever* been in 
 > >>combat. 
 > > 
 > > 
 > > In no particular order 
 > > 
 > > Garfeild 
 > > George Bush 
 > > Gerald Ford 
 > > U.S. Grant 
 > > Benjamin Harrison 
 > > William Henry Harrison 
 > > Rutherford Hayes 
 > > Andrew Jackson 
 > > John F. Kennedy 
 > > A. Lincoln 
 > > William Mckinley 
 > > James Monroe 
 > > Theodore Roosevelt 
 > > Zachery Taylor 
 > > 
 > > Nixon, Ford and Johnson were all in WWII and may or 
 > > may not have seen combat 
 > > 
 > > Jimmy Carter was in the Navy and may have seen service 
 > > in Korea 
  
 Ulysses S. Grant was a 'lead from the front' general, at times, during 
 the U.S. Civil War.  Some suggest that was only when he was drunk, but I 
 think drunk was his normal condition, so that idea can't be correct. 
 How that isn't combat action, I don't understand. 
  
 Kennedy WAS in the Navy, and saw action in WW2 in the Pacific Theatre. 
 See his book "Profiles in Courage" for more info.  Or doesn't the poster 
 consider naval action to qualify as combat action? 
  
 Dwight D. Eisenhower was in military service (army) in both WW1 and WW2. 
 He was the top American leader in the European Theatre in WW2, and was 
 in the field in WW1 (saw and participated directly in combat action). 
 Like Grant, he was later nominated for president (by the Republicans) 
 and elected. 
  
 Wagner was partially correct ... no American president, while serving as 
 president, participated as an armed combatant in combat action (that 
 rules out Lincoln's visits to the front).  That, however, is probably 
 not the interpretation he wanted made about his post. 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) 

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