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  Msg # 3122 of 3283 on ZZCA4353, Monday 7-14-24, 8:48  
  From: GAPOPE@VCN.BC.CA  
  To: IVAN GOWCH  
  Subj: Re: What the Boys in blue can do for you  
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 Yeah, yeah, old news. . . 
 Why do you think we have defense lawyers AND the RIGHT to have one in a 
 criminal trial? 
  
  
 -- 
  
 Because I care, 
  
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 (aka Reverend George A. Pope) 
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 In non-essentials, liberty; 
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 Ivan Gowch  wrote: 
 IG>   The U.S. system of "justice" is a tragic joke, 
 IG>   and everyone knows it.  Canada's is little 
 IG>   better. 
 IG> 
 IG>   Police abuse, and sometimes kill, innocent persons 
 IG>   at will.  Cops plant evidence, they lie, they coerce 
 IG>   confessions and they commit perjury.  Many are, 
 IG>   simply, criminals. 
 IG> 
 IG>   Prosecutors suborn perjury.  They introduce "evidence" 
 IG>   they know is false, they fail to disclose and try to 
 IG>   suppress exculpatory evidence and they knowingly 
 IG>   prosecute innocent people. 
 IG> 
 IG>   The laws against some drugs are primarily a means 
 IG>   to give the cops an open-ended warrant for search 
 IG>   and seizure and a mechanism to keep poor people, 
 IG>   young people and especially poor, young *black* 
 IG>   people fearful, off-balance and easy to control. 
 IG> 
 IG>   The U.S. law that mandates heavier penalties for crack 
 IG>   cocaine possession than for the powdered Hollywood 
 IG>   variety is an outrageous act of oppression aimed at 
 IG>   ensuring that blacks are punished more harshly than 
 IG>   whites for the same offence. 
 IG> 
 IG>   The U.S. "Patriot Act," of course, is an abomination 
 IG>   that has turned that supposedly freedom-loving 
 IG>   land into a police state.  The current 
 IG>   administration's program of warrantless, covert 
 IG>   surveillance of citizens is illegal and an outrage 
 IG>   that should have people demonstrating in the street 
 IG>   or marching on Washington.  With guns in hand. 
 IG> 
 IG>   Criminal court judges, for the most part, are in 
 IG>   collusion with the cops and prosecutors and many 
 IG>   wouldn't know justice if God came down from Heaven 
 IG>   and handed it to them on a golden platter. 
 IG> 
 IG>   The result is that in the U.S., almost one in four (23 
 IG>   per cent) black men in the age group 20-29 is either 
 IG>   in prison, jail, on probation, or parole on any given 
 IG>   day (four times that of whites). The number of young 
 IG>   black men under the control of the criminal justice 
 IG>   system is greater than the total number of black men 
 IG>   of all ages enrolled in college as of 1996.  It's 
 IG>   almost certainly worse today. 
 IG> 
 IG>   That the system is a blunt weapon for the continued 
 IG>   oppression of black people -- and, in a larger sense, 
 IG>   poor people -- is so obvious it needs no further 
 IG>   assertion. 
 IG> 
 IG>   The prisons are overflowing with people who have 
 IG>   never harmed a soul, and uncounted thousands 
 IG>   who are innocent of the crimes they were convicted 
 IG>   of.  And these don't even include the suspected 
 IG>   "terrorists" being tortured in various parts of the 
 IG>   U.S.-owned and -operated gulag and denied any 
 IG>   type of due process. 
 IG> 
 IG>   The system must be brought down.  It must be 
 IG>   strangled, clogged and made so unworkable that it 
 IG>   collapses under its own weight.  Once the 
 IG>   system grinds to a halt, the powers-that-be will 
 IG>   panic, the legislators will be forced to act and the 
 IG>   laws will change. 
 IG> 
 IG>   Accomplishing this may not be as difficult as it 
 IG>   sounds.  What it will take is to educate young people 
 IG>   -- and especially young BLACK people -- to follow a 
 IG>   few simple rules when dealing with the authorities. 
 IG> 
 IG>   The rules should be posted in foot-high letters on 
 IG>   billboards in every city.  They should be scrawled as 
 IG>   graffiti on every ghetto wall.  They should be taped 
 IG>   to lockers in schools and carved into police-cell 
 IG>   walls and posted all over the Internet.  They should 
 IG>   be set to a beat and turned into a hip-hop song. 
 IG>   They should be seen wherever people who are the 
 IG>   system's favourite targets gather. 
 IG> 
 IG>   If everyone followed the rules to the letter, the 
 IG>   system would stumble to a halt.  And then, either the 
 IG>   laws would change in an attempt to eliminate 
 IG>   injustice, or the system would be forced to cast off 
 IG>   its mask and reveal the monster police state lurking 
 IG>   underneath. 
 IG> 
 IG>   If that happens, there can be only one response, and 
 IG>   that's to take it to the streets, dismantle the 
 IG>   motherfucker and start afresh. 
 IG> 
 IG>   The rules fall into two categories:  Stymie the Cops, 
 IG>   and Get Your Rights -- ALL Your Rights. 
 IG> 
 IG>   You've waited long enough.  Here are 
 IG> 
 IG>   THE RULES OF RESISTANCE 
 IG> 
 IG>   NEVER tell the police anything the law doesn't require 
 IG>   you to tell. 
 IG> 
 IG>   (According to a disastrous U.S. Supreme Court 
 IG>   decision in June 2004, that means your name 
 IG>   only [unless you're driving a car, in which 
 IG>   case, of course, you're required to show I.D]. 
 IG>   Practice these words for all other cop 
 IG>   questions:  "I'd rather not say.") 
 IG> 
 IG>   NEVER consent to a search of your person, your 
 IG>   vehicle, your possessions or your residence. 
 IG> 
 IG>   (Insist they get a warrant.  If they 
 IG>   search without one, they generally can't 
 IG>   use as evidence whatever they might find.) 
 IG> 
 IG>   NEVER confess.  To anything.  Never admit to 
 IG>   anything. 
 IG> 
 IG>   (If arrested, say "I want to speak to a 
 IG>   lawyer."  Say nothing until you have. Never 
 IG>   believe the cops when they tell you things 
 IG>   will "go easier with you" if you give a 
 IG>   statement, turn in your partner or point them 
 IG>   towards evidence. This is the biggest lie 
 IG>   cops tell, everyone knows it and yet, dumb 
 IG>   motherfuckers fall for it every day.  Don't 
 IG>   be a dumb motherfucker.  The policeman is 
 IG>   not your friend.  He wants to see your ass 
 IG>   in stir.) 
 IG> 
 IG>   NEVER discuss your case with cellmates or others 
 IG>   in or out of jail. 
 IG> 
 IG>   (Assume everyone you meet in jail is a 
 IG>   police informant.  Many of them are.) 
 IG> 
 IG>   NEVER plea bargain. 
 IG> 
 IG>   ALWAYS demand a lawyer. 
 IG> 
 IG>   (From the moment you are arrested, 
 IG>   tell the cops you want to speak to a lawyer. 
 IG>   At the police station, tell everyone you 
 IG>   come into contact with that you want a 
 IG>   lawyer.  Don't talk to the cops until you've 
 IG>   spoken with a lawyer.) 
 IG> 
 IG>   ALWAYS plead not guilty. 
 IG> 
 IG>   (Even if you're guilty as hell.  Make them 
 IG>   prove it.  Often, they won't be able to 
 IG>   if you don't help them.) 
 IG> 
 IG>   ALWAYS demand a full jury trial. 
 IG> 
  
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