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  Msg # 3049 of 3283 on ZZCA4353, Monday 7-14-24, 8:47  
  From: PENNY  
  To: ALL  
  Subj: Re: Street Gangs Zero In On Gun Owners  
 XPost: calgary.general, can.politics, edm.general 
 XPost: hfx.general, tor.general, van.general 
 XPost: wpg.general 
 From: penny@pen.rhys 
  
 On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 06:58:05 GMT, "pcourterelle"  
 wrote: 
  
 > 
 >"penny"  wrote in message 
 >news:esigs19j7rmvvicda5u7js46kol03m5a8f@4ax.com... 
 >> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:16:43 GMT, "pcourterelle"  
 >> wrote: 
 >> 
 >>> 
 >>>"Ladies Choice"  wrote in message 
 >>>news:%_Bwf.46787$km.26769@edtnps89... 
 >>> 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>Just as a lot of booze went South in the 20's you can bet guns will 
 >>>>>continue 
 >>>>>to flow North if there is even a small black market for them. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Indeed, but that isn't really an argument against banning guns. 
 >>> 
 >>>So the efficacy of the law banning handguns really isn't an issue since it 
 >>>won't prevent them from flowing north? By all means, place your finger in 
 >>>the dike while its walls crumble around you and call it success. Banning 
 >>>handguns is a base electroral ploy and nothing more. 
 >>> 
 >>>pc 
 >> 
 >> One study found that the U.S. murder rate without handguns was 
 >> roughly equivalent to that of Canada, while the murder rate with 
 >> handguns was 14.5 times greater. 
 >> 
 >> Another study found homicide of a family member was 2.7 times more 
 >> likely if the home had a firearm than if it did not. The same study 
 >> found suicide was nearly 5 times more likely in homes with one or more 
 >> firearms. 
 >> 
 > 
 >You have an uncanny knack for missing the point and misconstruing 
 >information. The above speaks to your desperate need to eliminate individual 
 >choice and responsibility in Canada. It says nothing but the efficacy of 
 >policies to ban handguns while the border is porous and the flow of handguns 
 >from the United States is uncontrollable. 
  
  
 You're getting carried away, pcourt. Your " desperate need "  isn't 
 allowing you to absorb my statistics and then rebutting them with 
 aplomb insted of resorting to ad hominems. 
  
  
 Penny 
  
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