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 From: someone@ms.com 
  
 "Ladies Choice"  wrote in message 
 news:vRqwf.72293$OU5.60167@clgrps13... 
 > In article <1Dnwf.46705$km.23470@edtnps89>, someone@ms.com says... 
 >> 
 >> 
 >>Thanks for the geography lesson. I'll return the favour, Toronto is IN 
 >>Canada, not Canada as a whole as I specifically requested. I asked for 
 >>national data to back up the need to change a national policy. 
 > 
 > In other words you still don't understand how meaningless that 'request' 
 > is, 
 > even after my demonstration? 
 > 
 > I can see this is going to be as much fun as pulling teeth... 
 > 
 > Alright then, I ask for national data to back up the need to not change a 
 > national policy. 
 > 
 > 
 >>I have no use for handguns, collectibles or otherwise.If it can be clearly 
 >>demonstrate that there is a natioinal need to ban handgun ownership from 
 >>private citizens (who already must go through significant legal and 
 >>administrative hoops) based on rates of gun crimes committed with handguns 
 >>that were stolen from private owners, then I'll agree the change is 
 >>justified. Until then this is unwarrented meddling by the federal 
 >>government 
 >>in provincial affairs. 
 >> 
 > 
 > I'll ask again.  What would the figure of rates of crimes commited with 
 > guns 
 > that were stolen from private owners have to be in order to 'clearly 
 > demonstrate that there is a national need to ban handgun ownership from 
 > private 
 > citizens, etc, etc'?  If you cannot provide such a figure, you are making 
 > a 
 > completely fallacious argument.  But since you have the audacity to use 
 > the 
 > word 'clearly' in this obfuscation, I suspect you are already aware that 
 > your 
 > argument has a severe deficit of cogency. 
  
  
 Aside from ad hominen arguments and fallacioius logic you have nothing. Let 
 me rephrase the question for you. 
  
 How many homicides per 100 were committed in Canada with a stolen handgun? 
  
 Cite a scholarly reference. 
  
 pc 
  
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