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  Msg # 2943 of 3283 on ZZCA4353, Monday 7-14-24, 8:45  
  From: PENNY  
  To: 10X@TELUöS.NET  
  Subj: Re: Street Gangs Zero In On Gun Owners  
 XPost: calgary.general, can.politics, edm.general 
 XPost: hfx.general, tor.general, van.general 
 XPost: wpg.general 
 From: penny@pen.rhys 
  
 On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 04:00:37 GMT, 10x@telu€s.net wrote: 
  
 >On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:09:06 -0500, penny  wrote: 
 > 
 >>On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:50:00 GMT, 10x@telu€s.net wrote: 
 >> 
 >>>On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:03:34 -0500, penny  wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>>On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:18:28 GMT, 10x@telu€s.net wrote: 
 >>>> 
 >>>>>On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 01:16:47 -0500, penny  wrote: 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>>On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:48:24 GMT, LC@dinkerson.com (Ladies Choice) 
 >>>>>>wrote: 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>In article <1ju7s1d9l5t2opccph9gt0nch2u9fgbekf@4ax.com>, penny@pen. 
 rhys 
 says... 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> I don't see the need for handguns.  The only people who should have 
 >>>>>>>>handguns in our society are the police and the miltary. 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>They are pretty useful in bear attacks.  Try getting your rifle out 
 while a 
 >>>>>>>bear is mauling you. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>I stay away from bears. :-) 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>Then you will never be visiting northern Alberta or northern B.C. 
 >>>>>Once you step out of your vehicle you become part of the food chain. 
 >>>>>Having a firearm with you will sometimes take you right to the top 
 >>>>>rather than the dead bottom. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>and if the bear knows you are there and gets under forty yards you 
 >>>>>should be taking defensive action resulting in the termination of said 
 >>>>>bear. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> 
 >>>>You could always stay away from areas in which you would automatically 
 >>>>become part of the food chain since you don't need to be part of that 
 >>>>chain.  In our society it's all done for you. 
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >>>> If you have an urged to be saturated by the grandeur and beauty of 
 >>>>the wilderness I'm sure there must be a bear-free or a bear 
 >>>>--controlled part that you could visit. 
 >>> 
 >>>Are the bears aware of these bear free zones? 
 >>>It has been my experience that bears go wherever they want to, 
 >>>whenever they want to. 
 >>>I have, in the past, created my own "bear free zone".  It kept my 
 >>>livestock from being eaten by bears. 
 >> 
 >>Does that mean you live in the wilderness? 
 > 
 >It may have been wilderness 75 years ago when my father cleared it 
 >with an axe so he could earn his homestead. But it is farmland now. 
 >The bears just couldn't turn down the opportunity of a free meal in a 
 >pig pen, nor could coyotes and foxes turn down all the meals in the 
 >chicken run. 
 >It hasn't been wilderness for fifty years but it is rural farmland and 
 >there are still bears and other predators there. 
  
  
 So you really have need of a long gun since you are living on the 
 fringes of a predatory food chain. 
  
 > 
 >>I don't have a clue about bears. but I would imagine that there are 
 >>certain habitats that bears are drawn to more than others and that 
 >>these habitats are known and studied and maybe mapped.  It just seems 
 >>like common sense to me. Isn't that so? Go ahead and educate me about 
 >>bears. 
 > 
 >Bears are opportunists and are very adaptable, they can live in semi 
 >urban settings with very little interaction with humans. 
 >When humans grow food that bears like, bears will capitalize on the 
 >opportunity to eat.  I have had bears eating the apples off the trees 
 >by my driveway.  A pretty sight until children come walking up the 
 >driveway. 
  
 Thanks for the insight into "bears in your own backyard".  I've never 
 seen a bear. 
  
 Where I was brought up we had lots of foxes and  sheep.  There weren't 
 any bears, wolves or coyotes anywhere close to where I lived.  I 
 believe the only place in Europe you might find them are in Spain 
 where I think they also still have wolves. 
  
 Penny 
  
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